What Would You Do ?
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You are checking out at WAL-MART and have just finished paying the casier. As you pick up your small bag of ...
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March 17th, 2008 11:02 PM
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What Would You Do ?
Consider the following situation....
You are checking out at WAL-MART and have just finished paying the casier. As you pick up your small bag of items, and start toward the exit, you hear two gunshots and screaming in the back of the store. You are legally carrying your CCW weapon, have your permit in your billfold, and an extra clip in your jacket pocket, along with your cellphone.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
In most states, you should (legally) just walk on out the front door, and call 911. You are not in any danger in the eyes of the law. While that action seems strange, it is the law in many/most states.
Nevertheless, it is unclear that most of us would do so....
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March 17th, 2008 11:02 PM
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March 17th, 2008 11:07 PM
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I'd leave and call 9-11.
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March 17th, 2008 11:14 PM
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Someone shooting in the back of the store? Can we be 100% certain that this is where the shots actually came from? Who's to say that a second gunman isn't waiting for people to run into the parking lot for cover? In PA it is legal to protect the life of a third party as long as they are in a imminent death or serious bodily injury situation.
To answer your question. I wouldn't know what I would do unless this situation were to actually happen to me. One part of me would want to get out of dodge and the other part would feel guilty knowing I could have prevented an unknown # of senseless homicides.
By the time I would actually get to the parking lot and dial 911 it would probably be too late. besides I bet that many people have already dialed 911 by this point. what we need in a situation like this are for more good guys reaching for their gun rather than more people reaching for their cell phone. The cops are coming regardless if they receive 10 or 100 calls.
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March 17th, 2008 11:17 PM
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Many states, including my own allow you to use deadly force to protect yourself OR others from serious bodily injury or death. However, the smart thing would be to get out of the store and call 911.
An armed populace are called citizens.
An unarmed populace are called subjects.
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March 17th, 2008 11:23 PM
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Leave immediately and call 911. Not to mention the risk to life - I do not need the financial/legal risk. I have an obligation to my family first, whether they are with me or not. This is for any situation that you can think of - not just the one described. I will be reluctant to put my family in jeopardy for anyone.
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March 17th, 2008 11:23 PM
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I definitely wouldnt exit the door fearing an outside shooter. I wouldnt too quickly run towards the gunshots either. I would, to the best of my ability, try to get a sit-rep on whats going on and exactly where its happening. I would also be looking for a good spot for cover and concealment just in case the shooter is moving towards me. If I determine I can move, I would try to move in towards the area as safely as possible.
However, I would be very careful before I draw my weapon . . . . there might be other CCW holders there who might mistake me as a shooter.
Remember, Wal-Mart sells ammo (most of them do anyway), so the shooter might be right there with more ammo than I have.
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March 17th, 2008 11:26 PM
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I would try to exit safely and call 911 if at all possible. Still to many unknowns. Most times if I am at Wal-Mart, I have my son and wife with me and their safety is priority one.
If the target presented himself and looked like some fruitcake whose Mommy didn't pay enough attention to him on a rampage I would get involved after seeing to my family.
I am not going back to investigate the gunfire. That would be like a teenager in a horror flick going to check out a suspicious noise outside of the cabin.
I am not a police officer but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night.
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March 17th, 2008 11:32 PM
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March 17th, 2008 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
KenInColo
Many states, including my own allow you to use deadly force to protect yourself OR others from serious bodily injury or death. However, the smart thing would be to get out of the store and call 911.
exactly!
If i hear shots, I'll view my surroundings and if I don't see anything... I'm out!
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March 18th, 2008 12:06 AM
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I'd leave and call 911. How do you know the shots were'nt a ccw holder defending himself? Also I'm not running towards shots fired. I'm not a cop.
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March 18th, 2008 12:11 AM
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If the shots are in the rear of the store...I quickly exit (watching my surroundings)...call 911 while leaving the area as quickly as possible...the cops can handle it!
Stay armed...be smart, you're not a cop...stay safe!
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March 18th, 2008 12:33 AM
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I wouldn't just walk out... I would RUN out.
I would put my life on the line for very few people.
Why do you own a fire extinguisher when you have the fire department to protect you?
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March 18th, 2008 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by
FlyboyLDB
Leave immediately and call 911. Not to mention the risk to life - I do not need the financial/legal risk. I have an obligation to my family first, whether they are with me or not. This is for any situation that you can think of - not just the one described. I will be reluctant to put my family in jeopardy for anyone.
yes i agree with this 100 % , i have a obligation to my family first , we are not the police , nor do i want to be the police "call 911" and leave , now my mother works at walmart , if it happened while she was at work , yes i would go straight back and find her and get her out of there , and i would just worry about my actions later .
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March 18th, 2008 01:02 AM
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It would be a hard thing to do but I think I would leave and call 911.
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March 18th, 2008 02:37 AM
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I'm personally unable to run and the volume of people running out the doors screaming would knock me down,I personally would take up a defensive position i could confront a threat from and observe,walking into an area where you don't know where the shots came from can result in you being ambushed.Anything after that would depend on what i observed from my defensive position
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