March 23rd, 2008 10:16 AM
OK, I'll play from the comfort of my couch.
1. Call 911, speaker phone, clip it to my shirt
2. Draw weapon
3. Start truck (if not already running) point in direction of BGs and hit the brights
4. Give info to 911
5. Order approaching BGs to STOP and drop their weapons, (noncompliance is expected)
6. Wish I practiced more with off hand shooting
7. Depending on line of fire, either shoot approaching BGs or pin them down with my truck
8. Great, now I created a hostage situation with the woman and Glock guy.
9. Too many variables to continue.
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March 23rd, 2008 12:12 PM
It would just depend on the distances, and the position of my truck at the moment. My 5 + ton truck is going to make a heck of a weapon and if I didn't manage to nuetralize all 3 BG's on the first swipe, I will have at least scattered them. Yell at the woman to grab the kid and hop in maybe?
If my truck is not feasible as a weapon, its draw and fire. If the distance is greater than I want to engage in with my pistol, well thats one of the reason's why I keep a rifle in the truck underneath the seat. If there are no immediate BGs that can do me harm, I will take out the one that is an immediate threat to the woman and child.
After any of that, a dynamic situation just became even more changing, including an extra BG with a van as a weapon. My goal would be to put down or disperse the BG's as quickly as possible. I am no longer an LEO, so I do not feel obligated to give orders, warnings, and attempt to detain anymore, not that I don't reserve the right to do so if the situation warranted it. This situation most likely does not, and trying to control 4 BG's by yourself is a deadly situation.
Calling 911 first is the first thing you do to report the incident after its over. If you want to play super hero crime fighter, you have to be ready to act instantly and dialing 911 takes away precious time in a situation that you have no time. You have to weigh and balance out when is the proper time to call 911.
Don't get me wrong, I have called 911 to get the calvary on the way when I had the time to do so before I entered a bad situation. You have to remember though, sometimes you don't have time.
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March 23rd, 2008 03:28 PM
Hit 911 and drop it on the seat!
As a 911 Comm. Officer I can't stress enough how important it is when using a cellphone to tell me where you are. Most Comm. Center still can't trace 911 cell calls quickly & easily.
If you call and just drop the phone there will be a nice recording (in most agencies) of the incident and hopfully if will go well, but I can't send Officers/EMS to help you if I don't know where you are.
Even cellphones that are GPS enable only give me the longitude and latitude which I then need to look up to try to locate you, all of which takes time and delays a response.
Even if you just get out your location, name and that you are a CCW holder involved in an incident...even that info alone will change the response that I send and help prepare the responding units.
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March 23rd, 2008 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by notagangsta
1) Close enough to see they have Glocks
2) Close enough to see you
3) It is dark...with street lights?
I think...you will initially be dumbstruck...calling 911 will be problematic since you are still looking at them...and besides, you have to dig for your cell phone. Don't think you will be able to react that fast (since you are close enough for them to see you and you them)
4) I would go bright headlights and make them look into the sun
5) Go on the offensive with the car and my weapon. Make them go on the defensive.
I already have a credible witness...the woman. Calling 911 would be my last resort...not my first. Things happen too fast sometimes that require immediate proactions.
March 23rd, 2008 05:03 PM
Create space and evaluate. If possible call 911. 3-4 guys , one armed isn't good odds to start a shoot out. Especially with a hostage /victim in the cross fire (potentially). I would try to keep all players in sight so no one circles around you. Calling for help will get more good guys to help (and take over).
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March 24th, 2008 10:44 AM
Originally Posted by wedoada
Thanks for the advise...
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