OC towards window or other patrons?

OC towards window or other patrons?

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    OC towards window or other patrons?

    Restaurant carry question: In VA, we can OC in nice restaurants, but cannot carry concealed, so I did the "Virginia Tuck", tucking what to that point had been a cover garment behind the grips of my pistol. Anyone who was really looking for it could clearly see the pistol, but it was black on dark navy shirt and slacks, and people tend to hastily look away from my waistline...

    She wanted a window seat (hey, it's our 20th), and I sat with my carry side towards the window. My thought was that with the lighting and reflections, any BG would be highly unlikely to see anything other than two people in the window, and my biggest issue really was the comfort level of the staff and other patrons. My goal was to enjoy a pleasant dinner with my wife rather than to make a political statement (though kudos for those who exercise this right a bit more vigorously than I do).

    Thoughts? Should I have sat the other way or pushed for a table against an interior wall? Other comments?


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    My vote goes to keeping it as "concealed" as possible.
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    Even concealed, I prefer to keep my strong side in. Gives me more options.
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    I prefer to keep my gun side towards a wall or window and away from other patrons, but being able to see the door and other exits trumps that!
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    Strong side in.
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    Does "strong side in" mean the weapon towards the wall or towards the center of the building?

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    I believe they mean the wall to keep from being made having a gun on them.

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    That is my intent, of course... but with a floor-to-ceiling window to the sidewalk, it gave me a moment of indecision.

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    I guess we could rename this this thread "carrying a gun gets complicated, doesn't it?"

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    Lucky I have you folks to help...

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    Being from Virginia also I am often faced with the same problem. When possible I sit so gun is not visible to other customers. I am right handed and carry at the 3:30-4:00 position. If placed in a window booth I don't worry about it that much. Most sheeple don't look in the windows as they are entering. Those that do are not looking to see if someone sitting in a booth is carrying a weapon. I doubt very seriously a BG is going to be looking to see if the people in the booths are carrying either. They are going to be looking to see if there might be a LEO inside, provided they are smart enough to do that.

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