This is a discussion on Pickup owners...Filling up the tank within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by KG4ZRC I didn't recommend that you try that... Just pointing out a fact due to something else that was said in an ...
There is a big difference in taking measures to prevent the BG from driving off in the vehicle and not playing cowboy after he is already there. I believe that is why all the suggestions have been made to not leave it running, or use a keyless entry to lock it up, or other measures to keep them from being able to actually steal it.
If I am standing at the pump, pumping gas, I am going to do everything possible to keep the person from getting the keys out of my pocket, getting into the truck, Jeep, or van, starting it, and driving off. But if they get the keys, get into the vehicle, get it started and start to drive off, it is already too late to try to get back in control of the vehicle. I think that is the main difference between the two methods of thinking.
What is the old addage, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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That's kind of what I was getting at when I posted a link to the Secure-Idle. I had one in an old Crown Vic I used to have; it was great. Problem solved, nobody gets shot.
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GAP Insurance: An automobile insurance option, available in some states, that covers the difference between a car's actual cash value when it is stolen or wrecked and the amount the consumer owes the leasing or finance company. Mainly used for leased cars.
Colorado has the what they call the "puffer" law which essentially says you can't leave your running vehicle unattended. One of the TV stations did a feature on that law after someone drove off with unattended and idling Arvada (Denver suburb) Police patrol car.
An armed populace are called citizens.
An unarmed populace are called subjects.
Shoot him in the leg, care for him and his kids for the rest of your life. Carry an extra key or separate the remote from the key and lock the truck, even when it is idling.
This discussion brings to mind a story my late grandpa used to tell about something that happened to a friend of his back in the '70s in San Antonio. This was the time when many full-service stations were being driven out of business by convenience stores that were installing gas pumps on every corner.
Anyway, this friend was filling his car with gas when a man walked up, and noticing he had left his keys in the ignition told my grandpa's friend that he could pretty easily steal the car and intended to do so; the friend responded by pulling the pump handle out of his tank and dowsing the man from head to toe with premium ethyl. My grandad told us that they had to take the man to the hospital for treatment.
I think that is a pretty novel idea personally......
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My old powerstroke fill up runs about $180! As far as shooting anybody stealing
vehicle this is why they have gap insurance and I recommend everyone buy it
who finances a vehicle.This covers the extras like sales tax,excise tax when when you have a loss.I had a vehicle stolen in 1995 and there was no gap insurance and difference between settlement and replacement vehicle was $4,200 ! Your insurance companies is not your friend I was going to arbitration
as this was their third offer.You add up all the taxes and first year depreciation
you get hammered so buy gap insurance it's cheap take it from this victim.
She was metal patient who was drunk ! She got 7 days in jail for oui nothing for stealing truck and totaling it ! I had no recourse civilly because she is on social security and in states mental health system.