This is a discussion on Katrina: Would you surrender your guns? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by LongRider There is no logic in any gun grab, gun control measure. All those decisions are emotion based, not fact based. If ...
Abort the Obamanation not the Constitution
Those who would, deny, require permit, license, certification, or authorization for me to bear arms are as vile, dangerous & evil as those who would molest, abuse, assault, rape or murder my family
When I bought my Glock. Salesman was pointing out how a different weapon was more durable. Then I had a gut check. I'm no rambo. It is more likely I will fail before the Glock. The Glock can weather more then me. Same thing when THEY start doing what ever. More likely I'll be one of the first ones taken out of the picture.
I'd like to say no, but I would hand over a few.
I would lie about the hunting weapons and shot guns. The pistols are all registered. Not sure what I would do (& it sucks).
Years ago I had a chance to aquire unregistered .38 Spls. Had 2nd thoughts about it. I figured the odds were higher having them would lead to trouble then the odds of big brother knocking at my door for my guns.
In the end, I trust the government (in the long run), because frankly, I would more then likely be one of the dead patriots.
Missouri Revised Statutes
August 28, 2007
Firearms and ammunition, state of emergency, no restrictions permitted.
44.101. The state, any political subdivision, or any person shall not prohibit or restrict the lawful possession, transfer, sale, transportation, storage, display, or use of firearms or ammunition during an emergency.
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I didnt see alot of resistance when California confiscated the "assault rifles" a few years back.
guns and ammo , but I gave most of them to my neighbors
and you are now in a cross fire zone !!!
I strongly suggest you leave
Your see, 1000 gun will not help you more than two or
three will ,but you can put them in the hands of the oppressed!!
Zoe: "Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?
Book: "Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps."
On topic, it seems to me that the central decision that one must make in considering this question is whether one is going to meet the Gun Confiscation Squad unarmed (thus allowing them to freely assault you with deadly weapons utterly without consequences, and possibly confiscate your guns) or meet them fully intending to use their own rules of engagement which would necessitate being prepared to kill them without hesitation if they so much as twitched their weapons in your direction.
Obviously, it would also be a good idea to have armed neighbors who were all willing to act as a group to prevent LE from disarming any one family.
The difficulty is that we have gradually allowed the government to freely enforce (and thus define) a double standard for acceptable behavior with weapons for themselves [apparently based on the idea that when they brandish weapons and commit assault, this is perfectly acceptable] while if "civilians" were to act toward an officer in exactly the same manner given exactly the same provocation, the shooting of the civilian would of course be justified, "because he had a gun." This is exactly the same mentality that accepts (without questioning) silly edicts like, "only LE may buy body armor."
It is the cognitive dissonance of treating agents of the government as lawful agents of the government, while they operate completely outside their lawful authority that causes the question to be difficult.
It is likely that there is actually no answer to the original question posed in this thread - because once you let yourself enter a situation where multiple others are armed and you are not, then you really don't have a choice.
Possibly, the "correct" answer to this question is, "Well, after we surrounded them at gunpoint and confiscated their weapons, body armor, clothing, and shoes, sent them packing, and redistributed the newly-acquired equipment among the neighbors, no one else from the government came to 'help' us."
But that would require more resolve than most people have.
Interesting question, though.
Last edited by Dex Sinister; October 18th, 2008 at 01:03 AM. Reason: perfectionism
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Wow, excellent post Dex. Pretty much cuts right to the core of the issue.