Changing a flat

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    Changing a flat

    This occurred to me after seeing a poor guy laboring to deal with a flat - in yeah - a darned parking lot, late in day, twilight!

    I offered to help - and did - seeing as he had little clue how to use the jack! I had BTW checked out all around and could not see this as a ploy. It was straightforward.

    Made me wonder tho - it is dark - you come out from Mall (alone) - and notice your vehicle has a flat. To all outward appearances - ''just a flat'' - maybe nail. However, let us imagine (we are good at that!) someone stuck an awl into inner wall - so no obvious mark. They plan to rob you when you get to changing that wheel.

    Problem is compounded by being alone - no one to act as lookout. Any thoughts as to your actions? I would naturally be cautious to Nth degree but - hard to watch six while doing this. Call AAA even?
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    Hard to say depends on area i park usually in BFE in the middle of the lot so no one could be even close

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    Good point Bud - choice of park space is quite useful.

    Plus maybe being nearest if possible to one of the overhead lights.

    Of course, between parking and coming back out - who knows who has parked close to you - so ''boxing you in'' a bit.
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    I'll generally help if I don't get a squicked-out feeling about the person. If the little voice says stay away, I do.

    If I'm with a friend, things are different - then we have more capacity to watch each other's back and provide assistance.
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    I call a tow truck and have my insurance pay for it :icon_lol:
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinInstructor
    I call a tow truck and have my insurance pay for it :icon_lol:

    I think I have to agree.
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    AAA card is in my wallet for a reason.

    As for helping someone who is stranded. That depends on how I evaluate the situation at the time. I have done it in the past. Before I had AAA someone was kind enough to stop and help my wife after a blowout as well. She was grateful for that as it was on our 4x4 truck and she was so looking forward to wrestling with a wheel around half her weight or better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    Good point Bud - choice of park space is quite useful.

    Plus maybe being nearest if possible to one of the overhead lights.

    Of course, between parking and coming back out - who knows who has parked close to you - so ''boxing you in'' a bit.
    Thats true to

    Depending on How things look depends on what i would do.. Also one other thing is most Mugger car jackers etc etc usually ont fool with a Male of my size i usually out weigh then 2:1 And i know size has been a Factor before..

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    I would be cautious, but would change the tire myself. Might take lomger , looking around constantly. I also will help others in trouble, but size up the people first. Usually you can tell from someone's demeanor if they are really stranded.

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    AAA = American Automibile Association
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    Depends on the terrain/situation. Daylight, lots of people around, moms with kids, etc. Me do change. Dark, not much going on, just me and my flat.......AAA probably.

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    I like the AAA option, it means you can be on guard till they show, and then keep watch while the work is done. Makes for the safest way to go!
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    The situation would be one of the biggest factors. That said, another option would be to move the car flat and all to another location.. Perhaps better lighting, more people, a close gas station? Perhaps a call to a friend? (a little "back up") If you feel the need, destroy the tire to get where you need to to feel secure.. The price of a tire wouldn't even come into play where my, or my loved ones safety was an issue!
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    Good Comments

    Cell Phone & AAA
    Of course I've had AAA not show up for over 2 hours
    And...I've had a dead cell before also.

    I submit though that if you are in a situation like this & have already scoped out the area & visually have seen nothing and then get involved with the normal functions of changing a tire you could still be in trouble.
    Suppose some Bad Guy (escaped convict maybe) did a quick run out of the bushes for the sole purpose of busting a lightning fast cap on your head & THEN robbing you &/or taking your vehicle...whatever???
    I'm not sure if anybody would be ready for that...when your respective "Awareness" is possibly focused on where that doggone lug nut rolled to.

    IMPORTANT INFO: It is important to remember that you CAN drive quite a distance on a flat to get yourself to a safer area.
    It sure will take you longer to get there but, think seriously about doing it.
    If you Damage A Rim....WHO CARES! We're extremely well covered concerning our auto insurance.
    I always told my wife that if she got a flat in a bad area.
    Try to get to a better, brighter, safer and more populated area to call AAA & to Hell with the rim or the tire...or the car.
    It is not good to be sitting for an hour in a remote or known unsafe location waiting for a rescue truck.
    Especially an unarmed female.
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    Thx guys - indeed AAA is the safer option, more I think on it - and even if it takes time waiting - can always go back in mall for some of that.

    If a flat was for malicious reasons then it seems all but impossible to do this on one's own, and - keep a good lookout.

    One other option I guess could be - if other folks around then perhaps be able to find a guy (casual, but carefully screaned) who can spare time to do guard duty!
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