1 vs. 5 downtown -- criticism/advice welcome
This is a discussion on 1 vs. 5 downtown -- criticism/advice welcome within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by jdowder
Am I the only one who disagrees with the OP calling a member of the group a "retard"?
"Retard" is a ...
October 9th, 2008 10:08 AM
"Retard" is a bit challenging. "Back thy fornication off" with flat affect and genuine willingness to do harm generally conveys more information and less challenge- if one needs to say anything.
Originally Posted by jdowder
It isn't as much fun, but staying away from downtown is the most significant step that can be taken in ensuring your (and your SO's) well-being.
October 9th, 2008 10:35 AM
Originally Posted by Risque007
That's a good reason not to have had a gun! Don't even think about carrying without the proper permit. You might want to consider some OC......along with the knife it's a bit of a force multiplier that could definitely have helped if they'd have decided to push it.
My .02 Glad it all worked out nonetheless!
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
October 9th, 2008 12:51 PM
I think you did well but I would have called 911 after to report it so they could be looking for those punks.
October 9th, 2008 01:48 PM
Do I think Retard, or confrontational language, was the right choice? No not really.
Would I have used a similar or stronger word, specifically cursing? Most Likely.
Most of these punks understand harsh language with a harsh tone better then other wording. I jokingly call it Fire Fighter Language for me, I dont curse much anymore but if it is what i think will show my sincerity then I will. I have F bombed Chiefs at fire scene when i needed to throw them out of the building it telling them nicely did not work. The second time they asked I would have used such language as well.
"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."
-James Earl Jones
October 9th, 2008 04:40 PM
I love that one! Would love to see the look of confusment it might cause.
Originally Posted by Rob72
October 9th, 2008 05:16 PM
Next time, close the distance between you and the leader and put the knife against his throat and calmly tell him that regardless of what happens, you will have company pleading your case to St. Peter and Jesus Christ; more than likely you will see his resolve deflate quickly......
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry
October 9th, 2008 05:53 PM
Or you could say "Why so serious?"
Originally Posted by edr9x23super
October 9th, 2008 07:08 PM
You'd be losing if they were serious since if they were, you probably would have been shot.
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October 9th, 2008 07:35 PM
Oh I am loving that one, lol.
Originally Posted by Fixxxer
A man without a blackthorn stick is a man without an expedient. - Irish Proverb
Why so SERIOUS?
October 9th, 2008 07:53 PM
Tell GF to stand at the door to the club until you pull up out front. Stay on the phone with her if necessary. Double park for 15 seconds while she comes out to the car, drive her right to her car. Follow her home. No gun. No knife. No 5 on 1.
October 12th, 2008 01:36 AM
IMO you did 3 things wrong.
1. Your not 21 :)
2. You let someone get behind you and possibly escalated the situation by using insulting language.
3. Didnt notify the police.
"...trying to get a long gun into play while someone is all over you like a monkey eating a cupcake is not very conducive to good survival techniques." ~Bark'n
October 12th, 2008 12:10 PM
The result is what counts ...
Like someone else said you got out of it unharmed. So you did good.
I don't think that going over what you could have done differently is of much relevance, because the odds that you will find yourself in the same exact situation are "slim to none"
The first rule of a gunfight: "Don't be there !"
The second rule: "Bring enough gun"
jfl (NRA Life Member/Instructor - GOA - IDPA - GSSF - ex-IHMSA)
October 12th, 2008 04:00 PM
Best solution! DUH its so easy but I didn't think of it - Huh
Originally Posted by Dan M.
October 12th, 2008 05:52 PM
I have to second this. I made the mistake a few weeks ago of "challenging the ego" of a 4:1 fisticuff i was involved in. I had been drinking some and therefore wasn't carrying anything but my little 3 3/4" open-assist kershaw. I didn't draw it, but one of the guys ran up swinging. Luckily the other three were smart enough to scatter when i swung back... and accurately. I strongly advise against the use of derogatory remarks, as it only serves to aggravate the situation; but don't be a **** sheep.
Originally Posted by jdowder
The muzzle end of a .45 pretty much says, "Go Away" in every language.
Fast is fine, accuracy is final. Learn to be slow in a hurry.
"I never met a man that had been in a gunfight and wished that he had a smaller gun. Ever."
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