What Do You Do? Really? What Do You Do?

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    What Do You Do? Really? What Do You Do?

    Check out this link and watch the entire video.

    Imagine yourself, with your weapon, as a by-stander, in this situation.

    You've stopped for a six pack or some cigs, etc.

    This could be a murder happening before your eyes.

    What would you do?

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    Skateboard's a deadly weapon used that way.

    After the first strike, draw weapon and direct him to drop the board. If he looked like he was going to strike again, fire.

    If he just walks away, let him go. Cops can pick him up for ADW easily enough.
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    If I had my Freeze Plus P & around this situation - I'd give him a dose in the face. Really!
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    Drunks, Punks, & Human Skunks

    Sorry...but, as a bystander ~ I am not "clearing leather" on a young kid packing a "deadly" skateboard.
    I can just envision my impending civil trail playing out in front of my eyes like a really bad Sci~Fi movie.
    Ditto: the advantages of a large can of OC Spray or I would just go over and knock his lights out.

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    Cal 911, and get the o.c. ready. I would be very hesitant to intervene witht he crowd mentality. The would most likely turn on you in a second.

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    Hose him down! Then..
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    Hmmm - with ''that crowd'' around I sure would not want to be trying any clever stuff drawing. No way, even in fact with no crowd it would be very likely a bad decision.

    As a bystander I would be pi$$ed to see the beating and for sure - the board could have cracked the guy's head open - almost surprised he got up at all.

    If things had continued much longer tho - I could see things getting close to lethal potential. Even then however, the biggest single problem is the crowd - way too many kids around. Much unpredictability.

    A call on phone would be about best initial move but beyond that - heck, I would sure not want to get involved - I don't think anyone wants to fool with crazy odds.
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    First, I am with Army on this. Secondly, eventhough the skater messed up the guys car I would have just called the police, because when the guy grabbed the hat off the skaters head it became a problem. Thus, after the guy would have done his deal on my car I would have just pulled over and called the cops and waited. Now, if the guy would have continued I would have firmly asked him to stop. Then sprayed him with mace or Freeze P if he would have continued. If the guy would have pulled out and shot the guy I think he would have been wrong because his action of slapping the guys head was an assault against him. Also, don't do something stupid to impress others if you can't back it up. This guy was obviously scared after he slapped the guys head and he cocked the skate board back. Lastly, the jury would have played this up as skateboard against 45 pistol.
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    P.S.S post, me as a bystander. Not my business I would have just avoided the skater personally because like I said the guy made a bad choice in slapping the guys head and immediately realizing that this skater was no pushover. First, my family or friends are not in danger and I am not a cop.
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    What constitutes a felony assault with a deadly weapon????? From the looks of the crowd, the punk only had one or four friends and the rest were pissed off motorists. Plenty of witnesses for your side.

    The trucks (metal axles) on a skateboard have a huge bolt right between them and is likely what hit the guys head.
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    police should have been called immediately.

    however, if i was there, i would have drawn down, crowd or not.

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    In my state NC, if a guy comes at me with a skate board I pull out my 1911 I am wrong. They consider this too much force. Now, I could mace the guy and retreat. I know this is stupid, but this is how it works. Now if the guy and I are fist fighting and he grabs a skateboard and starts crushing my skull, I am now free to plug him. That is why Florida's gun laws are better. You have the right to protect yourself by any means legal.
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    That video has been around a bit. The guy hit with the board actually died later that night from the head injuries. The crew that filmed this was for one of those "Jackass" videos. The last time I saw this, the video was posted in conjunction with newspaper scans of the article where the punk was arrested and facing trial.

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    Well............the scenerio depends on exactly what State/ locality this episode unfolded in. Call 911, tell them who you are, and you're in the process of whitnessing a possible ADW and possible Homicide...........I could be wrong in my thought train with what I'm about to say in my reply, but it's how I feel I'd handle it..
    Personally, even in the state of Ma..............a ADW is considered a "shod foot"........sooo ith that in mind, and watching the altercation unfold, I would have waited til the guy got struck with the skate board.. Based upon the phyisical events that are unfolding, I then would have taken a stand, with my own safety in mind, and the victim's safety as well.........and drew my weapon and ordered the assailant to halt..(now.....you already know he's struck and possibly critically/ fatally injured the victim........and who may be the next victim?? take a guess.......especially if I'm attempting to protect the victim.. BTW......the guy should have never hit the skater's hat and knocked it off...........AND the skater could have walked away without becoming the agressor or not even striking the guy with the board..
    The fact is the skater continued, and at that point HE has become the agressor.........I then would have again ordered him to halt.........pointing my weapon his way, and attempting to get between him and the victim...........If the skater came at me.......and attempted the strike me........with what I deemed as the DEADLY WEAPON that he has in hand (the board) acting in a threatning manner, and attempting to cause me bodily harm, I then would have dropped him .. As for the rest..............I don't think they would have continued.........as now they knew EXACTLY what is about to happen, should they become the agressors..
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