This is a discussion on Mumbai in US?? (Merged) within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Some whine about their perceived rights being violated but they never come up with a single edble example. Twice a year, the DOJ itself releases ...
Twice a year, the DOJ itself releases The "Report to Congress on Implementation of Section 1001 of the USA PATRIOT Act", outlining documented civil rights complaints under the Patriot act. Since 2001, that report has never been empty, so I'm not sure why you think there are no examples. That's only the patriot act, and doesn't include other actions like the Warrentless Wiretap issues and extension of Patriot act powers for non-terror related activities (such as drug dealing). There's also the OIG's Audit of the FBI's abuses of National Security letters released just last year documenting, by the OIG's count, over 1000 cases of abuse of Patriot Act powers. This report is called "Review of the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Use of National Security Letters"...Some whine about their perceived rights being violated but they never come up with a single edble example.
Those who don't see specifics, simply are not looking for them.
The facts are indisputable. There is more data supporting the benefits of Conceal Carry than there is supporting global warming. If you choose ignorance, in light of all the evidence, in order to bolster your irrational fear of guns, you are a greater threat to society than any gun owner.
This is report by the OIG on the FBI and national security letters. Part of this is a review of how the FBI is complying with previous instructions regarding their documented misuse of NSLs.
Infowars- Proving David Hannum right on a daily basis
While heavily armed and possibly trained, this force of cowardly terrorists attacking soft targets does not constitute a military force. The pictures show people in street clothes, not body armor and helmets. They could be assaulted and confronted by anyone with a little luck and some gumption. That lack of gumption is what the reporter was bemoaning.
Here was a post on this forum a few days ago about a local news agency reporting that inaction in an active shooter incident is going to mean more dead innocents. That is what the reporter was complaining about. Our LEO community is getting the picture that cordoning off the area and waiting for more firepower means more lost lives. After this I believe the Indian LEO communitiy will know the same.
But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...
LTC(RET) Dave Grossman
Revolutionary War Veterans Association Shooter Qualification: Cook
“Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.” James Dean
Phil (NRA Member and Vietnam Vet)
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I gave them to the naked Pigmy's in New Guinea
The conflict between Pakastan and India over Kashmir is a relatively new conflict that can be directly atributed to England's inability to resolve their ethnic borders before leaving their colony. That is the simple, honest truth! What is scary to me is that both countries have nukes and are more than willing to use them. Why we allowed these countries to become nuclear while we balk at Iran or N. Korea even having nuclear power is beyond me.
Nothing to be afraid of, America has no place inbetween Pakastan and India that would place us in peril of attack like this. Terrorism in general doesn't really scare me, for I know terrorists are cowards and want the biggst "bang" for thier buck so Vermont shouldn't be too high on their list of naughty infedels
BTW: I'm joining with homeland security this Dec 8th when I go off to training, so I hope you feel a little safer knowing that I'll be on watch.
I am sworn to protect the Constitution of the U.S.A. from all threats both foreign and domestic.
"He went on two legs, wore clothes and was a human being, but nevertheless he was in reality a wolf of the Steppes. He had learned a good deal . . . and was a fairly clever fellow. What he had not learned, however, was this: to find contentment in himself and his own life. The cause of this apparently was that at the bottom of his heart he knew all the time (or thought he knew) that he was in reality not a man, but a wolf of the Steppes."
While we try to impose our will that nuclear proliferation is contained, it is inevitable that nuclear technology will find its way to rogue nations. That is no reason to discontinue attempts to stop evil regimes like Iran making muclear weapons.Why we allowed these countries to become nuclear while we balk at Iran or N. Korea even having nuclear power is beyond me.
Too late for North Korea. Clinton's inaction and appeasement policies allowed North Korea to complete their weapons. Let's just hope that Obama will not be as foolhardy in his foreign policy. Although I sincerely doubt it. It is very likely that Obama will cause a nuclear conflict in the Middle East.
That is the same mindset antis use to believe they are safe.Terrorism in general doesn't really scare me, for I know terrorists are cowards and want the biggst "bang" for thier buck so Vermont shouldn't be too high on their list of naughty infedels
Well done. Good luck. I hope you are able to make a difference.BTW: I'm joining with homeland security this Dec 8th when I go off to training, so I hope you feel a little safer knowing that I'll be on watch.
I too believe as many have stated previously that an attack is very
likely to occur here on US soil. I also believe that a Mumbai style
mission is highly possible. What I really find hard to believe is
that any CCW legal individual with the typical vigilant mindset that
usually precludes obtaining a CCW permit could not envision a more
positive outcome from confronting EVIL. At the risk of sounding
too paranoid, My wife ( also CCW holder) and I make it a point to
always be aware of our surroundings and as a matter of SOP sit
facing both doors of restuarants when dining out. When in any public
place we try too remain vigilant. Even insurmontable odds can be
turned in one's favor with quick, decisive action. Inaction , IMHO
should never be an option when confronting EVIL nomatter
what the chances of success are.
Safety First....Keep your groups tight,
I always thought after 9/11 that a sequenced or coordinated attack on several of our large Postal branches would reek big time havoc. At any given time there are billions of dollars of paper in the mail system. If an attack took place, I'd bet the US postal system would shut down for weeks... and all that money would come to a standstill.
Businesses whose receivables were hung up would be in a world of hurt, as there cash flow would be impeded. Such an attack during the current economic situation would be even more catastrophic.
The good news is a percentage of the public doesn't mail checks anymore, but I'd guess more than 50% still do.
I hope it doesn't happen.
Okay, I've been quoted twice - just for the record...
I do NOT mean a legal shooting range, target practice, or other places for "normal" weapons to be hot.
I do mean, places like a shopping mall, restuarant, or other "civilian" area where guns should not be displayed or used on others.
Trying to leave as large a carbon footprint as possible.
Shivering in the "heat"
Innocent as doves, wise as serpents, armed like wolves.