Carrying at Work, I hope I get this one right and not get post removed.
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December 8th, 2008 03:15 PM
Carrying at Work, I hope I get this one right and not get post removed.
I made a post simiular and it was removed. I am hoping I get it right and I am within the confines of whats allowable on the forum. I really mean no harm and do not intentionaly break the rules.
So here it goes.
Your at work and written in the employee hand book states "No Weapons". I have read that some of you will still carry into your work anyways. (Not me though).
There is an incident where a nut job comes in the place of work shooting. If you are not directly in jeapordy of injury or death, would you use your firearm and save the co-workers around you and take the guy out saving countless lives, or do you ignore and get out of the building letting your co-workers and friend be at the hand of the nut-job ? This way HR can't come to you later when everything has settled.
With this Scenario question, I hope I am not breaking forum rules.
"When the people fear the government you have tyranny...when the government fears the people you have liberty."
--Thomas Jefferson --
December 8th, 2008 03:18 PM
I know it's not generally accepted, but if I had a clear shot (and beyond) I'd take it. When I worked in an office setting I worked with at least 5 close friends. To run out on them would be unthinkable, to let them die because I ran would be unbearable.
Now if it were at someone else's work, screw it. I'm out of there like my tail is on fire.
I've no dog in that hunt.
[I]They make a desert and call it peace - Calgacus
We're all just a bunch of Right Wing Racist Republican Homophobes - Rush L.
December 8th, 2008 03:49 PM
Under Tx law you can come to the defense of another,you will probably be fired but I could not run thinking I could have saved lives and didn't because of selfish reasons
"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .
December 8th, 2008 04:11 PM
To my way of thinking, once you choose to carry at work, you have put your job in jeopardy anyway. So with that in mind I would defend my fellow employees to the best of my ability and deal with HR later down the road. Human life is more important than a career anytime.
God bless our troops!
December 8th, 2008 04:20 PM
This is a tough one for me. I work in construction so there are gun primers up to .32 cal going off everyday while framing. I ignore them all the time and trust me, they are loud in a bldg without insulation.
So to answer your question, I would have to be directly involved, otherwise, I wouldnt know if it was a framer or a BG. If I was directly involved I would consider myself in danger and return fire until the threat has stopped.
If my life is in jeopardy who cares about the job. Numero Uno first.
"Government is not the solution to our problem; government IS the problem". - Ronald Reagan 1981
December 8th, 2008 07:35 PM
I'm not a cop...I don't plan on running in and 'saving the day'.
If I'm in the direct path of a shooter, that's different and then there's a personal threat...then I take action.
Other than that, I'm exiting and calling 911.
Proverbs 27:12 says: “The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.”
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December 8th, 2008 08:10 PM
I do carry at work ('nuff said) and if I were in a position to protect another co-worker or even just a bystander I would regardless of the consequences from my HR department.
If retsupt99 were in my place of employment during a robbery or other bad situation, I would be devastated to read on the forum that he was killed in that incident at my place of work that I might have been able to prevent.
"Engage your brain before you engage your weapon" - James "Mad Dawg" Mattis
December 8th, 2008 08:18 PM
Good question - one I would like answered as well. I'm a elem school teacher. And to carry in the bldg, isn's company policy, it is state law. While I would like to carry, so if some whack job decided to off little children, I could take him out and save countless parents from some serious grief. By doing so, I would be a hero - but I would go to jail!!
Serious delimma that one.
Trying to leave as large a carbon footprint as possible.
Shivering in the "heat"
Innocent as doves, wise as serpents, armed like wolves.
December 8th, 2008 08:30 PM
Same here, IF I carried regardless of the company policy. Texas being a right to work state, you can guarantee you are going to be gone as soon as the smoke clears.
Originally Posted by dukalmighty
"Don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it; but if you do hit him, put him to sleep." - Theodore Roosevelt
December 8th, 2008 09:10 PM
Originally Posted by crzy4guns
"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."
December 8th, 2008 11:11 PM
+1. The others made their own decision on their personal safety.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
"Texas can make it without the United States, but the United States can't make it without Texas!".... Sam HoustonRetired LEO Firearms Instructor NRA Life Member
December 8th, 2008 11:52 PM
Jobs usually don't last a lifetime.....Death lasts a lot longer.
Safety First....Keep your groups tight,
December 9th, 2008 01:27 AM
if i saw any innocent people being shot down, no matter where it was. i would try to stop the shooter.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.”
― Thomas Paine
December 9th, 2008 05:08 AM
Originally Posted by stormbringerr
December 9th, 2008 05:54 AM
The trick is to resign shortly after the incident, that way being "Fired with extreme prejudice" does not show up on your resume/work history.
Not my problem until it becomes my problem.
More often that not I am in the field working, so it would really be a matter if I am present where something like this happens. I carry at work for my own protection when I am alone at night at remote locations with a small fortune in copper wire and fuel.
On the rare times that I am actually working in the shop/office, I may go as far as the nearest access door to where the shots are coming from and make sure everyone else gets out/cover them. If an opportunity to take a shot comes up, that is iffy, I don't know if it is the actual shooter coming out of an office/adjoining hallway or a coworker that also carries against policy saving their own butt.
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