It was just the wind right??
This is a discussion on It was just the wind right?? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; felt a need to ask here and see if i did the right thing tonight.
So here is the set up... its about 10pm the ...
December 20th, 2008 01:01 AM
December 20th, 2008 01:01 AM
December 20th, 2008 01:05 AM
Maybe have her call 911 as well... if you must shoot, it implies feeling threatened so a call to 911 shows worry, and gets you some backup as well. Welcome neighbor!!!!
December 20th, 2008 01:32 AM
I have my SR9 on me as I am sitting here on the couch and my shotgun within my wingspan. Yeah, there have been a couple times I have clicked the safety off. At the same time, I did not remove my computer from my lap, get up or put down my beer.
Dare I say, it seems like a bit more reaction than was necessary, not "over-reaction," but I would be a skinny guy with multiple stomach ulcers and high blood pressure if that was my reaction every time I heard a noise and my dogs barked. In the case of an actual emergency, you and your wife's reactions seem to be pretty good (besides the "wheres my gun" moment) and would have kept you as safe as possible, without going outside.
I'm not going to lie to you, I would go outside after too if I was really convinced that there was someone there.
December 20th, 2008 02:24 AM
I agree, have wife call 911, keep 911 on hold.
Odds are it was the wind, or it was a one time attempt. But what sucks, is this could be the first attempt at checking your reaction.
Tough call. Happy I'm not you, as my mind would be buzzing.
PS: In my part of town (nice place where today all the neighbors dug the street out of several inches of snow together (and someone brought hot coco, etc.) locks are as important as lights. Hope you have sensor lights up and / or a poarch light on.
December 20th, 2008 05:18 AM
I was with you until you opened the door......no need to do that.
I would have turned off the lights to 'wait and watch'...two guns pointed at the entrance would make for a great welcoming committee.
I wouldn't have called 911 until I heard further noise or movement.
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December 20th, 2008 09:53 AM
My opinion exactly !
Originally Posted by retsupt99
I don't want to call 911 for nothing, they are spread out thin and the response can take 20 minutes.
When I built my house, I laid it out so I can see all the exterior from inside.
Don't be in a big hurry to go out, unless there is a compelling reason to do so.
Put yourself in the BG shoes; he knows he has been detected, there is no sign of panic; the inside goes dark, the outside lights are bright, very scary !!! Find another house !!!
Note: My motion detection outdoor lights are set to the shortest delay (1 minute) so I can get an idea of anybody moving around; yeah there is also permanent low lighting thanks to LED - 30 bulbs draw 2 watts.
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December 20th, 2008 10:42 AM
I wouldn't have opened the door until I was sure no one was around, and then only long enough to secure the screen door. I wouldn't call 911 yet either. Why waste city/county resources if not needed.
One of your best resources is your aussie. There is a big difference in their alert bark/posture and their guard posture. Both of the aussies I owned in the past let you know if something/someone was in their territory. Their barking ceased and all you would hear was a deep in the chest rumbling growl. Their looks can be deceiving. Beautiful and sweet dispositions, but highly protective of what is theirs and fearless when protecting it.
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December 20th, 2008 10:46 AM
You lose your advantage as soon as you step out side. Turn off inside lights, turn on out side lights hunker down watching and listening.
I get coons and bears on my porch/deck trying to rummage the metal trash cans, that can be a loud noise in the middle of the night. I know the feeling, motion lights are a big help.
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December 20th, 2008 08:29 PM
I have to agree with you on that one... only a few times in the last 3 years of having my aussie have i heard that sound come from her. that night was one of them.
Originally Posted by archer51
i do agree that stepping out side left me open to a something possible bad. but i guess thats that whole youth vs exp. deal. but what doesn't kill you only makes you better.
thanks for the advice on this
December 20th, 2008 08:48 PM
Having a wife in LE, it is still best to call 911. They prioritize their calls and you need the evidence of reasonable fear. Trust me, one of the first questions is going to be, "so you walked around for 10 minutes and did not call 911?" Your are screwed if your answer is no amd used your weapon or other lethal force.
The flip side, the LEO need the call numbers to justify increased manning. If you do not feel you should call 911, you probably do not even need to have your weapon out based on this scenario. Plus since you will not be going outside, someone is going to have to check around.
Have wife call 911, and DO NOT go outside. Keep your advantage by taking up a defensive position within your home.
December 21st, 2008 01:05 PM
Talked to local Chief of Police in my jurisdiction, and he said emphatically "no doubt, call 911." If not for yourself, certainly for the elderly neighbor down the street that might be the next target! Remember also, if you must discharge your firearm, it helps to show you had reasonable fear and did everything you could to avoid firing.
It may be worth noting that there have been an increase in home invasions within the Hampton Roads area recently. I live about 40 minutes from OP home.
December 21st, 2008 01:44 PM
It sounds like "dawg's" reaction tells the whole story. Not the wind.
I've no idea how they know, but they know.
Dogs use lots of nuanced sounds to communicate and they use body language and well established doggy behaviors. When that dog came to get you, it wasn't for nothing.
December 21st, 2008 04:48 PM
I would not have the safety off and the hammer back, with family around and high stress levels too much chance for an AD.
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December 21st, 2008 05:04 PM
If you are going to open the door, let the hounds loose.
(Actually, I take that back. Too much liability if they munch on the neighbor kid.)
Just wait safely inside.
(I've really learned the lesson from this DC board, to stay inside. It absolutely goes against my instinct, but it is the right move and the safest move.)
December 28th, 2008 10:39 PM
Stay inside in a secure position. Going outside switches the advantage to the BG, not to mention they may not be outside; they may still be in your house!
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