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Standoff with a Rotty tonight.

This is a discussion on Standoff with a Rotty tonight. within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by BamaSteve alright, I'll buy that. I just read a comment yesterday or something that told him to go buy a book on ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaSteve View Post
    alright, I'll buy that. I just read a comment yesterday or something that told him to go buy a book on dogs or something. I didn't think that was fair and was going to say something earlier, but didn't forget until you mentioned something.
    With that you have to study every breed of dog and know it intimately, and then chance you have not run into a dog that behaves different than the norm for the breed. Thats why I say it was up to the owner to have taken the proper steps to assure the delivery guy and the dog were safe. Some have the misguided thought that everything and everyone needs to work around their own needs in this world. But to co-exist it is not that way, IMHO. If the owner had stated even that he had a rottie or whatever kind of dog when he placed the order things could have gone smoother. There is simply no one way to point a finger on this one. I just hope the OP will take some of the advise offered and not put himself in a bad situation when the owners don't take the proper steps.
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    Yeah, I think this sounds like just one of those situations that happens. And as with everything, there was better ways to handle it. But I suppose that goes with everything in life. It is nice to have these stories on here though so that in a sense we get exposed to those different situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaSteve View Post
    Yeah, I think this sounds like just one of those situations that happens. And as with everything, there was better ways to handle it. But I suppose that goes with everything in life. It is nice to have these stories on here though so that in a sense we get exposed to those different situations.
    We learn from our past and sharing our stories and excepting constructive criticism. Knowledge is best when shared amongst friends.
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    Tubby45,

    Does your town have a leash law? If so, it appears that the owners may be the ones who are in violation.

    You would have been within your right to stay in your truck and call 911. The owners would have been ticketed. Of course, you would have been stuck with a pizza.

    I've had to shoot my neighbor's dog. But, that was out in the country and the dog was killing my livestock.

    I asked the owner's to keep the dog off of my property, but they ignored my warning.

    When the dog came down again and mauled my 15 year old Australian Shepherd, I had no regret putting a bullet in the dog's ear.

    Actually, it felt pretty darned good.
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    i work for fedex, keeping a bag of dog treats in my truck has worked for me on all but 2 occasions. a 4D maglite solved one of those problems. the other time the dog attacked my left arm, it was winter so i had a heavy coat on, so it didnt break the skin, i puched the dog in the nose and it released. the owner's brother came out side walked me back up to my truck carrying his snow shovel. he was a complete a$$ about their dog attacking me, so no more packages for them.

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    I don't do dog treats. Too much BS involved. Maglight is too heavy to be practical or useful. Doesn't fit with the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottkeeper View Post

    IMHO you are relying on the gun to get you out of trouble that using more caution would have kept you out of.


    +1 I just read this whole thread and couldn't agree with the above quote enough.
    Common sense would have kept me in the car while I either called or honked my horn.
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    In my opinion you actually started it. If the dog had wanted to be aggressive it would have been from the beginning. Most dogs would come up to you and sniff a bit. By turning around and hitting it when it sniffed you from behind, I would say you angered/scared it and caused it to go on the defensive. Especially since you dont mention it growling or snarling before that.

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    There are so much Pro and Con. You did ok, you do what you have to do.

    Maybe next time, toss 1 slice of pizza to that rotty, let rotty feel satisfy, possible leave you alone. I wouldnt draw my weapon to a dog at someone's property. You never know that if Homeowner has their firearm on them and sees you brandished in their property. I do not want to know what going to happens. Most important is that you are OK!

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    I think you did good. I would get some OC spray though too.

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    you did good. But I would have honked the horn. glade you didn't have to cap the rotty. At my house your ankles, shoes and socks would have been toast!!!


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    If you were in my yard, hit my dog and drew your gun you would get shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Free American View Post
    If you were in my yard, hit my dog and drew your gun you would get shot.
    Then you would likely go to jail. If you are fine with that, then that is your decision. But a jury would see a person who was fearful of a dog and an owner who got ticked off and shot someone because of it.

    What good to your family would you be then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Free American View Post
    If you were in my yard, hit my dog and drew your gun you would get shot.
    Good luck with that.
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    Quote:
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    If you were in my yard, hit my dog and drew your gun you would get shot.

    Good luck with that.

    Wow....

    I sure have read some tuff love here. Me and my crew have to deal with dogs everyday.
    We Have to go on their property whether they like it or not. His Horn was broken so he couldnít honk, but you had this very bright flashlight, try shinning it in the house windows. (I have done this and it works). The owner never knew he hit his dog. All owner saw was his assault dog (Black just like the assault rifle) advancing on Pizza guy.
    I also have gotten out of my truck with big dogs around. Got to get a gauge on them. The big problem I have is about people saying He (I) need to understand dogs more. I ainít no Caesar Milan, but I am a free citizen of this great country and will protect myself if I feel I will be harmed. It IS the dog owners that need to learn more about how they need to control their animal. I shouldnít need to ask you to put your pet away. And if I ask, you should do it. It is the right thing to do. I know how a pet can become as close as family.
    But I also know Travis the Chimp was also considered Family.

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