Surprised at work! What would you do?

Surprised at work! What would you do?

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    Exclamation Surprised at work! What would you do?

    Late last month five utility employees were working at a substation in rural southeast Missouri. Two were in an elevated bucket and the other three were on the ground. A vehicle pulls up, the driver jumps out with a shotgun and starts shooting at the guys in the bucket. Apparently the other three ran for their lives. Here's a link to the story:

    02/27/2009 - Two AmerenUE workers shot in Cape Girardeau County; gunman kills himself - STLtoday.com

    Since the company who employed these guys apparently has a policy against concealed carry they were incapable of defending themselves with a firearm.

    I'd be interested in hearing your reactions to this story and how you might handle the situation.

    Thanks for taking the time to respond!


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    Prayers go out to the two wounded workers. Nut jobs can pop up any time any where, it's why we carry.
    It's very hard to speculate what I would do in this situation because I would be armed regardless of co. policy. As an unarmed sheep, run & pray might work? Hope I'm not the one up in the bucket. Those insulated electrical baskets do offer some cover, not if the BG is firing slugs. If a hydraulic line is hit you would become a sitting duck, I guess descending and bailing out would be the way to go. Hopefully the wacko is a bad shot. In America that we all want to see, the headline would have read, " Five Utility Workers Draw On & Kill Crazed Gunman".
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    Sounds like a nut case who couldn't handle the electric bill increases...but at least he saved the taxpayers money on their electric bill.
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    My father-in-law was a lineman for almost 40 years. He kept a coach gun in his truck at all times.....very much aginst company policies. He said he only had to display it once in all those years and nobody (company, union, or the police) gave him any grief about it. Times have changed.

    Hope thost workers come out of this OK.
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    Not much to "handle" unfortunately.

    Sometimes the best you can do is hunker down and pray that he's loaded with low brass #8's from his last dove hunt!
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    Duck and cover, and chunk whatever tools you have on hand. Other than that there isn't much else one could do.
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    make good sitting ducks. Not much they can do unarmed.
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    From the article
    After the shootings, the gunman sped off in a small Chevy pickup. A city sanitation worker who was listening to a police scanner spotted the truck and directed police. Officer s surrounded the gunman on Ridge Road in the Bent Creek subdivision.
    As a licensed ham and scanner buff I find this interesting. The Jacksonville police use an encrypted system and Florida law prohibits scanners in cars unless you are emergency personnel or a licensed ham. There are way too many incidents (such as this one) where scanner owners have saved lives and assisted the police.

    So you see it is not just gun owners who are persecuted.

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    In this case, all you could do is stay out of the line of fire. Not many options. On a side note:

    My ex brother-in-law works for the electrical company. In the late 80's he was going to turn off power at a house and homeowner came running out , drunk as hell, and unloaded a .38 at him. The company would not let him press charges!! They said it would lead to copycat offenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bps3040 View Post
    In this case, all you could do is stay out of the line of fire. Not many options. On a side note:

    My ex brother-in-law works for the electrical company. In the late 80's he was going to turn off power at a house and homeowner came running out , drunk as hell, and unloaded a .38 at him. The company would not let him press charges!! They said it would lead to copycat offenders.
    Had he been allowed to carry he could have made sure that the guy never ''copied'' himself again and rightfully so.
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    +1 to scanners and the sanitation worker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bps3040 View Post
    In this case, all you could do is stay out of the line of fire. Not many options. On a side note:

    My ex brother-in-law works for the electrical company. In the late 80's he was going to turn off power at a house and homeowner came running out , drunk as hell, and unloaded a .38 at him. The company would not let him press charges!! They said it would lead to copycat offenders.
    Geez, I wondering if the HO actually shot him. Will the company still would not let him press charges ?

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    Answering the original post.

    On the ground, get the truck between me and the gunman first, and distance second. I hope the substation didn't have a tall fence. In the bucket, duck! Only hope to get down and stay down so he thinks it worked.
    But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...
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    Tough situation...good thoughts. IM(humble)O the lesson here is: be prepared at all times - don't be lulled and always watch your 6!

    Both workers in the bucket were seriously injured but are expected to recover. Keep them and their families in your prayers.

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