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    If I shot a pit bull AFTER he bit me, I need more range time to correct the shot(s) that missed him when he charged me.
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    Once a pit bull gets a hold someone it can be hard to shoot the dog without hitting the victim. If the pit bull makes a charge it's time to shoot. once the dog bites there can be a lot of damage done in a short time.

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    I called a deputy sherriff to my house because a stray (very aggressive) pitt bull
    chased my wife onto our porch. I grabbed my twenty guage and it fled under the porch. The deputy arrived and drew his 1911 and couldnt wait to shoot it. I had to talk him out of it because I didnt want an errant .45 round to enter my house where my 8mo old was sleeping. He sprayed it with pepper spray and it ran out. I popped it in the head when it charged us and the officer told me good shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    I called a deputy sheriff to my house because a stray (very aggressive) pit bull
    chased my wife onto our porch. I grabbed my twenty gauge and it fled under the porch. The deputy arrived and drew his 1911 and couldn't wait to shoot it. I had to talk him out of it because I didn't want an errant .45 round to enter my house where my 8mo old was sleeping. He sprayed it with pepper spray and it ran out. I popped it in the head when it charged us and the officer told me good shot.
    That's the way it should be .If the dog is running free and charging people it should be shot. His next victim may be a child with out any way to protect him or her self.

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    This is one reason I got my glock. A few weeks ago, I walked my daughter to the bus stop, walked back into the house to get ready for work. I heard the kids getting a little loud with excitement, and heard a weird sound. Sounded as if someone was yelling through a construction cone. I walked back outside to see what was up, and saw a mother of one of the other children holding a pitt by hind legs while he was biting on a full size dachshund. the dog released and father came out and grabbed pitt. He must have just gotten loose, but I thought to myself, what if it was my daughter instead of another dog? The pitt probably weighs more then my 9 y/o. In the case it were a child I would put the dog down as quickly as possible. I do think about what the kids at the bus stop would think after seeing that, but if the pitt had my daughter in his mouth-toast. I carry to the bus stop everyday now and wait untill the bus arrives before going back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lionassad View Post
    This a an answer I found on the internet regarding a dog attack


    "you shoot the dog, even if it does bite you or your son, you will be held accountable for animal abuse and slaughter, which can send you to jail for up to five years with no probation."
    In the vast majority of states, that is complete Bravo Sierra soup, so long as you were reasonably in fear of serious bodily harm or death to yourself or another person--which any reasonable person would be if attacked by a pit bull.

    The person who posted that answer was talking out their backside...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionassad View Post
    "you shoot the dog, even if it does bite you or your son, you will be held accountable for animal abuse and slaughter, which can send you to jail for up to five years with no probation."
    Maybe in San Francisco or Boulder. But they deserve what they get.

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    It's any dog, actually. The one that bit me was shot and killed (not by me!) while my hand was still in its mouth, though it was not an attack --the poor thing was fear biting, it was terrified-- and there was no legal action taken. Though if we locate the owner, there will be several charges pressed against him/her.

    Maybe that's just an NC thing, I don't know.

    But if an animal actually ATTACKS, me or anyone around me, I'm going to do my darndest to neutralize that threat. Period. Dogs can kill. That makes them lethal, right? Not only that, but dogs all over with a history of bite/attack/agression are routinely "destroyed" by local municipalities, aren't they?

    (Personally, I'd like to put the hurting on an owner that CAUSES their dogs to be out of control and a threat, but hey, that's just my $.02)

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    I'm going to throw an aspect in here that I think most folks don't take into account. This may or may not also change how you complete your "jug" training. I'm not going to make this a pit vs other breed post, so don't let it go there. We've all seen how long those threads last.

    As a pit owner(and one who's seen a few attacks myself) I think I can safely say that if a Pit is on the offensive and appears ready to attack, you will only get one chance, that is, before it gets to you. Once it's on you, it's most likely going to THRASH...A LOT. Pits seem to have a natural tendency to hold on and thrash around whatever they get ahold of with no attention to any physical pain they themselves or anyone else incurs on them during that period. That's especially the case with something small like a small animal, an appendage like an arm, or even a small child.

    At any rate, the point is that if you don't get them before they get on you and they start thrashing around, you're not going to get a good shot. Try getting off a shot in ANY planned direction while an 80-90lb eating machine is thrashing your other arm back and forth faster than a jackrabbit on speed.
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    Pits and most Mastiff/Molosser breeds are bred to do just that (look up Dogo Argentino). They can inflict more serious/fatal wounds when they bite and then "tear" their prey. It's also called "shaking."

    There are different types of bitework depending on breed and training. They can either bite and release, bite and hold, or bite and shake. Strongest jaw power is a Rottie, second are tied for German Shepherds and Pits. (Whom I adore, my 1st rescue was a Pit that I loved dearly.)

    The original question was about biting you or your child, believe. And in any case, if a dog clamps down, do what to can to make sure it can't do any further harm. Yes, not to get into a breed vs breed thing, but several breeds including Pits are known for their tenacity, they are NOT LIKELY to break grip, and they are MORE LIKELY to shake and tear. You're right.

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    Man, there sure are a lot of guys here that want to shoot dogs. I grew up in a semi-rural environment, lived in small farm towns, and on the poorer side of town. I've been a recreational runner, bicycler, and motorcyclist. Been chased while doing all three. Stray dogs exist in every location I've lived...never had a problem that required a weapon.

    At its worst, and this only occurred twice, I had to kick the dog because my gut told me to (one was a Lab and the other a bulldog). Never has a dog turned around on me after doing that.

    Two dogs or more probably would, since the OP seems to be looking for a worst-case scenario.

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    Wait, I'm looking at the OP again...was I reading this whole thing wrong?

    It said "you shoot the dog, even if it does bite you or your son, you will be held accountable for animal abuse and slaughter, which can send you to jail for up to five years with no probation."

    And now I'm confused. So are you asking if you shoot the dog, "even if" it bites you, as in "shoot it whether it has bitten you or not" type of scenario?

    I can understand shooting it a giant dog is making its move or lunging at you, clearly you don't want to be on the receiving end of whatever it can inflict. But are we asking about shooting a dog that hasn't actually declared itself as a threat? In that case, I'd say NO, don't shoot it or yes, that's cruel. But if it's clearly self defense, then why would anyone be prosecuted for that? I'd be a lot more inclined to prosecute owners of dogs that are known to have an iffy temperament or are repeat offenders, and those owners are clearly NOT in proper control of their animal.

    Did I just get it all mixed up now?


    And is it "slaughter" if you shoot but don't kill?

    It seems odd to me that saying that IF you shoot a dog, you WILL be held-- blah blah blah, with no provisions for WHY you were shooting in the first place. What about a mercy kill, like if the dog is irreparably injured and you're out in the field and it would die a slow painful death on the way to the vet? We do that for horses when the vet is too far away, and back home, the HP would do it for an animal suffering at the side of the road hit by a car. I'd hardly call that abuse or slaughter. Bite or not.

    I need to take a course in reading comprehension. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    I called a deputy sherriff to my house because a stray (very aggressive) pitt bull
    chased my wife onto our porch. I grabbed my twenty guage and it fled under the porch. The deputy arrived and drew his 1911 and couldnt wait to shoot it. I had to talk him out of it because I didnt want an errant .45 round to enter my house where my 8mo old was sleeping. He sprayed it with pepper spray and it ran out. I popped it in the head when it charged us and the officer told me good shot.
    I called our sheriff's dept. and told them a stray dog was running my cattle.

    He said : Shoot the [Edited].

    So I did.
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    Two weeks ago,while working on a watermeter that was leaking,a neighbor yelled to watch out for a dog that was tormenting the area.She said she had already called the law,when this large (unknown breed) dog,about 125 pounds pops around my worktruck.At the same time 2 city PD show up and start to get out of the car,the dog charges me.Its ears are back,he aint barking or growling(2 VERY BAD SIGNS) just coming fast.I use the old bayonet drill of 6 foot step and catch the cur square in the throat with my shovel,he goes down and I finish him off with an overhand swing. The 2 cops said they could see no problem,and was compleatly justified.I hated to do it (big dog lover)but it was him or me, just that simple.

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    First thing everyone needs to realize is that Dogs are property........not part of the family. (although most of us consider our dogs *children* )although some states are changing that view.

    Second, around here the cops are shooting Pit Bulls like they were at the range, mainly because there owners are drug dealers

    Third, most people understand the ramifications of a dog bite. If a dog, even a small dog, bites your hand there is a good possibility that you could lose the use of your hand due to severe nerve and tendon damage.
    So shooting an attacking animal is NOT going to get you in much trouble, even if the animal is attacking a complete stranger, your PROBABLY not going to get in trouble (unless you accidentally shoot the victim )

    then again! I'm not a lawyer, heck I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn last night
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