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    Difference between a bite, and a full attack. Here, if it's just a bite.... you may be going to prison, depending upon the degree. If it's an attack, you wouldn't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    Difference between a bite, and a full attack. Here, if it's just a bite.... you may be going to prison, depending upon the degree. If it's an attack, you wouldn't.
    sorry, I should "qualify" Bite, what I meant was when a dog bites your hand and clamps down and/or gnaws not just nip you and runs away.

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    I never cease to be amazed at how many people just let their dogs run loose......running the streets is a death sentence for a dog. We owe it to our pets and our fellow man to keep our animals under control at all times. I have big dogs, one of them is mean and I always do whatever it takes to make sure that he doesn't get a chance to bite anyone. He's been through tons of training ,and he's a lot better but still does not tolerate strangers too well.

    I was bitten through my forearm by a dog,I couldn't do anything about it because I was holding my boxer u at the time. I had pulled him off of this dogs neck, in a bear hug,then the dog jumped up and got me. I was stuck ,didn't want to let Duke go for fear of getting bit by him too since my arm was in the middle. It really sucked, felt like my arm was breaking. Finally I was able to stick my finger in the dogs eye, he let go then. Now I know....the only way to stop a dog fight is to shoot the dog that's not yours.

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    A dog attack is time to Shoot, Shovel, Shutup. Yeah, I realize this can not always happen. I do love dogs. My father loved dogs but when a pair came onto our property and killed and were ripping on one of his colts that is exactly what he did. In fact, I am not even certain that he shoveled since it was way down in the low country by the lake.
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    Pits kill other dogs and have been know to kill a man. So the logic tells me the pit bull is capable of killing period.

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    I had to kill a dog once. He wasn't growling, snarling or threatening me in anyway at the time. Nor was he sick or injured. In fact, I don't know that he showed any aggression towards humans at all.

    When some people get tired of their dog and are too lazy to find it a good home, they might drive it out town and dump it somewhere only to become someone else's problem. This is sometimes referred to "taking it to live on a farm in the country". My sister, brother-in-law and their neighbors found themselves on the receiving end of such a situation.

    The dog attacked one of the neighbors dogs and tore it up pretty bad. Everyone was worried about their pets, livestock and children. They called animal control but since they were outside the city limits, they wouldn't do anything. We went to the local animal shelter to see if we could take it there. They said they were full and even if they had room, it would cost us $100 leave him there. Dad and I decided that shotgun shells were cheaper.

    We were out of options. So we did as oldogy put it, shot, shoveled and shutup. I love dogs, so doing this was no picnic. At least Old Yeller growled in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenInColo View Post
    BTW, In my intermediate handgun class, the instructor added the Charging Pit Bull drill.

    For the drill you need the following supplies:
    1. A carabiner (that mountain climbing thingy), attached to a belt loop on the shooters weak side
    2. About 35' of clothesline
    3. Several one gallon milk jugs filled w/water


    • One end of the clothesline is tied to the jug handle; the other end is threaded through the carabiner.
    • On the signal, the instructor, standing behind the shooter, starts pulling on the clothesline and the shooter begins shooting at the rapidly advancing milk jug.
    • The instructor stops pulling when the jug reaches 6' for safety purposes


    The first time we tried it (from the standing position), nobody got any hits. Then I tried it again but from a kneeling position & got it on the first shot about 20' out. I think it had to do with the grazing fire vs plunging fire principle. Everyone else tried it kneeling and got hits too.
    This should be printed in gold, it is absolutely perfect advice. When a dog is charging, it is unnatural to get down to the dog's level, but if you will do this, you can just pour rounds into the dog. Standing, you have to be moving the gun to keep up with the dog's movement. At the dog's level - you have a target moving directly toward you.
    Ken, thanks for posting that.

    Yes, I have shot a lot of dogs. And I hate doing it because I like dogs better than most people (I have nine dogs at home). But, I do not want to try Karate on a charging 80+ pound animal. Thankfully, I think those situations are now all in the past - but one just never knows. So, like Ken said, get down low -- and then have a lot of bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionassad View Post
    This a an answer I found on the internet regarding a dog attack


    "you shoot the dog, even if it does bite you or your son, you will be held accountable for animal abuse and slaughter, which can send you to jail for up to five years with no probation."
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    I recently read something different. A question was posed on a Gun forum about the rights of people to defend themselves against dog attacks and the administrator said that the potential victim would have to be in danger of great bodily harm or death for is to be justified. BUT, the administrator later corrected himself by saying that condition did not apply because the dog is not a human, the dog is property so the gun owner can protect himself and others from a dog attack if the fear of being hurt is imminent.
    This is what I found.

    (MCL 287.279)

    "Killing of dog pursuing, worrying, or wounding livestock or poultry, or attacking person; damages for trespass; effect of a license tag.

    Any person including a law enforcement officer may kill any dog which he sees in the act of pursuing, worrying, or wounding any livestock or poultry or attacking persons, and there shall be no liability on such person in damages or otherwise, for such killing. Any dog that enters any field or enclosure which is owned by or leased by a person producing livestock or poultry, outside of a city, unaccompanied by his owner or his owner's agent, shall constitute a trespass, and the owner shall be liable in damages. Except as provided in this section, it shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer, to kill or injure or attempt to kill or injure any dog which bears a license tag for the current year."

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    Just an observation?

    But is it me, that you can KILL a dog, but if it's human you use deadly force????
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    I shot and killed a Pit Bull which had jumped our fence and was in our front yard . Menacing my kids as I responded to their screams the dog focused on me and charged i cannot really remember deciding to shoot only the dog barking and the kids screaming and the dogs head and body basically exploding. When the sheriffs arrived I thought oh well its off to jail I go (at that time I lived in Kalifornia ) I had cleared the weapon and put it on the ground next to the dog they inspected it talked with my kids told me to keep weapon clear said nice shot had dog picked up and left nothing else was said. So I guess there's hope even in so-cal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldogy View Post
    A dog attack is time to Shoot, Shovel, Shutup. Yeah, I realize this can not always happen. I do love dogs. My father loved dogs but when a pair came onto our property and killed and were ripping on one of his colts that is exactly what he did. In fact, I am not even certain that he shoveled since it was way down in the low country by the lake.
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    Yep.

    Shoot, shovel and shut up is correct.

    I love dogs too. But when the dog is threatening livestock, it has to be dealt with.

    I've seen a lot of people take their pet and dump it out in the country. It's a death sentence.

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    Cool

    I doubt you'd get five years for shooting a dog that's attacking you in Florida.
    Now shooting an alligator that's attacking you, that's another story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lionassad View Post
    This a an answer I found on the internet regarding a dog attack


    "you shoot the dog, even if it does bite you or your son, you will be held accountable for animal abuse and slaughter, which can send you to jail for up to five years with no probation."
    Let me guess............another freakish California law??

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    So when your dog gets old, arthritic and crotchety and growls at your wife (suggesting an impending dominance fight), you have to pay a vet to put it down? Maybe I'm thinking Hollywood here, but I've heard that "a real man shoots his own dog" [when the job needs to be done - implied].
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    I have four dogs in my home. 3 of them are quite large. They are literate and have written a sign in the woods that says, "Need food and water? That chick in the house over there will hook you up"!

    So, dogs are cool and we have em at the house and even have visitor dogs over often.

    I will drop a dog in a heartbeat if it attacks. Period, end of story.
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