Got bit by a dog Friday... Your best defensive weapon rests between your ears.

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    Got bit by a dog Friday... Your best defensive weapon rests between your ears.

    Well, it had been nearly 20 years since I got a bit good by a dog. I guess eventually the statistical chances are going to stack up too much against me.

    I had to go to a client's house Friday morning to arrange for a bunch of soil to be delivered to backfill against the foundation of their new house being built. The client's had left that morning for the weekend and when talking to them on the phone I asked them if they kenneled their dogs or not. They said no, but I should have no problem herding them over to their kennel, they are such good dogs.

    So I get there just ahead of the framing crew showing up, and commence to trying to coax them over to their kennels. I tried it all, running, playing, treats, etc. Nope they were not going to have anything to do with me. I think I have had an easier time herding cats. Eventually, they ran into the shop where their beds and stuff were located, so I just shut the door on them since I could see the first dump truck coming up the hill. Got the gates open, framers showed up, dump truck driver and I laid out where he was going to go, and got him gone. Now back to getting the dogs in their kennel.

    I talked with the framers to see if they would help me keep the two separated while we take one at a time in the kennel. Nope, they basically said they were afraid of the dogs. So that left me alone to do it. I didn't want to leave them in a confined area all day because it was going to get hot and I didn't want to chance the dogs getting heat stroke. That would not have gone over well whatsoever.

    So I go into the shop, grab their collars and a rope for a leash, and get the big male separated and ready to go. We go out the door and have no problem getting to the kennel. Once he had it figured out what we were doing he walked right in, let me remove the collar, and I petted him for a minute before going to get his sister.

    I got the female all set up with no problems, and once we were out and she realized we were going down to her brother we were running down to the kennel. I thought this was going great. We got in the kennel and when I started to take the collar off, she turned and snapped out at my hand.

    I yanked my hand back and talked soothingly to her. Started to reach for the collar again and she snapped again. This time I commanded her "NO!" and commanded her to lay down. Both dogs complied. I soothingly talked with her again. Let her sniff at my hand for a few sniffs, and I thought we were calmed down and ready. Nope! She was waiting for me to be committed this time. Just as I was about to touch the realease she immedieately moved and got my hand.

    What this dog wasn't expecting was that this wasn't my first doggie rodeo. As soon as she got me I immediately pushed into her and wrapped my thumb in so that I had a firm grip on her lower jaw and my thumb and index finger were jammed into the pressure point below the toungue. I held her there for a second, the dog unable to bite me now and trying to get out of my grip, while I removed the leash. I let her go and loudly explained that she could keep the collar, with a few colorful adjectives. I walked out of the kennel and realized the framing crew had been watching all of this. They were in shock and immediately asking if I was ok. They thought I was getting tore up by that dog. I said no, I just had a couple of scratches, but otherwise no harm. In fact, after I washed up, you couldn't even tell that the dog got a hold of me.

    My observations:

    1.) Physical and mental preparedness go a long way to surviving an encounter with a dog. Your best weapon is your brain. This has always held true in my life, and has yet to fail me.

    2.) The framers think I am one tough sob now, since they didn't really realize how I handled that dog. They thought I just let her have her way with my hand.

    3.) I have allready told the owners what happened over the phone. Monday when we meet, we are going to have a talk about how they are going to need to kennel their dogs when they are not there. This is no longer my responsibility and if they are running loose when I arrive to work or deliver materials, then I will cancel the day and backcharge them for the time loss.

    4.) I like pie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonofASniper View Post
    This is no longer my responsibility and if they are running loose when I arrive to work or deliver materials, then I will cancel the day and backcharge them for the time loss.
    A few full-day charges on the invoices, of this sort, and they'll start to get the message: ain't no free lunch. If they want to foist responsibility for their snapping animals on others, there's a price to be paid for the refusal to take the responsibility. Good job.
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    Fast thinking.

    What kind of dogs are they?

    Flush the wounds with peroxide.

    My sister got bit by her own dog and she didn't think it was bad. Infection set in.
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    What kind of pie?
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    mmm pie.

    Well handled. fun read.
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    Nicely done.

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    Good job. Glad that it all worked out OK for you.

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    The owners were stupid, and negligent...as well as fortunate that you will only talk to them rather than sue them.

    I too like pie.

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    Very well done!
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    Glad it worked out. I think that I'd have just left the leash on the collar and called it good. Good thing that the male wasn't protective of the female, and they both decided to have a go at you.

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    Knowing how to handle dogs and having confidence in doing so is a plus for you...

    I have never left the homestead and let any animal run loose, and I can't understand how anyone can do that...
    An exception to that rule may be a farm dog who knows his boundaries...all others should be either inside or in a kennel.
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    I think you handled this situation well.

    If it were me, I'd get the hand checked out and report the bite. That way, at least arount here, the owners can deal with the county and if the dog bites anyone else in the future there will be a record of it. It may be what is needed to make the owners more responsible.

    I'm not against dogs, just stupid owners.

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    The dogs were a chow and blue healer mix. Talk about quite the combination for a biter.

    Yes, I did clean the area really well. Even a minor scratch can result in a major infection. Most people don't realize that there is a thing called "cat scratch fever".

    They basically are farm dogs. Its a rural location, and the whole property is fenced and gated. This is the dogs normal boundry, but given the fact that there are many contractors coming and going, the dogs are going to need to be kennelled during the construction process.

    I needed to remove the leash/rope so that the dog couldn't potentially get her self tangled up and aphixiated. If that had happened then I would be facing liability for damages. In this day and age, especially in liberal states like mine, pets have almost more rights than people.

    As far as reporting the bite, no, I will not be doing that. I understand why the dog did it, and it was not of a serious enough nature to warrant that kind of hassle for the owners. Plus the owners are worth a large amount of much needed work to me right now, given the state of the economy. However, this will be a lesson learned for the owners if I am going to continue to do work there.

    If this had been a serious injury, then I would have reported the incident.

    And I like all kinds of pie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    I think you handled this situation well.

    If it were me, I'd get the hand checked out and report the bite. That way, at least arount here, the owners can deal with the county and if the dog bites anyone else in the future there will be a record of it. It may be what is needed to make the owners more responsible.

    I'm not against dogs, just stupid owners.

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    +1. Exactly.

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    Never again!!!!

    I too was bitten in the hand by a so called "friendly" dog about 20 years ago... arm was swollen up like a balloon, right hand was useless for close to a month, took 3 years for the feeling to fully return. Had a chain saw in my other hand at the time, and I should have let him sniff that!!! Now when I see a dog come running and it is not mine, I slap leather real quick....
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