Learning from History | Mumbai terrorist attacks

Learning from History | Mumbai terrorist attacks

This is a discussion on Learning from History | Mumbai terrorist attacks within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I am sure most of us saw the ghastly attacks planned by Pakistani terrorists on Indian soil a while back. A situation like this is ...

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    Question Learning from History | Mumbai terrorist attacks

    I am sure most of us saw the ghastly attacks planned by Pakistani terrorists on Indian soil a while back. A situation like this is possible anywhere and this is probably the strongest justification for any law abiding citizen to bear arms and protect themselves and anyone close to them.
    Analysis of Mumbai Terrorist Attack Shows Strategic Planning

    I was wondering if any of you had thought about this seriously and had advice about how this can be dealt with if this happens here in the US. What kind of training would a civilian need to counter such a terrorist attack?

    Beleive me, if they start putting GITMO prisoners in US prisons, we can be sure of a similar attack.
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    From the article...

    ...The study — conducted by 10 RAND researchers and terrorism experts — argues that “safe havens continue to be key enablers for terrorist groups. Safe havens allow terrorist leaders to recruit, select, and train their operators and make it easier for terrorists to plan and execute complex operations.”

    At the strategic level, the Mumbai attack shows the urgent need for addressing the transnational sources of regional terrorism, the study says.

    And there is a danger in this type of attack that the attackers had local assistance from segments of the population that have become radicalized, the study says, which remains a significant political and social challenge.

    The attackers designed the assault to do what the authorities were not expecting: seek a high casualty count, go after significant local targets and cause economic damage, the study says....


    Safe havens...just like gun-free zones...

    Could happen here, but terrorists could/should/would be met with uncertain resistance here in America...

    Anyone confronted with multiple attackers who are using full-auto weapons is in a pretty tough solutions...take cover.

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    ...The study — conducted by 10 RAND researchers and terrorism experts — argues that “safe havens continue to be key enablers for terrorist groups. Safe havens allow terrorist leaders to recruit, select, and train their operators and make it easier for terrorists to plan and execute complex operations.”
    Gun free zones. Exactly the problem with them.
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    England, especially Londonstan has long been a safe haven, terrorists operate there with impunity as long as they leave the British alone. As they learned after the train attacks, they've made a deal with the devil.


    What can you as a civilian do ? Not much to be honest.
    However, by all means do what you can.

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    handgun vs full auto. no contest.
    evac if posable..
    or find a hide with your family and defend them. wait for swat.

    this is a no win.
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    The power of full auto has been greatly exagerated.
    When I was in the Army, I was Range master. As such I could "play" a little. I remember setting 5 targets (human silhouettes) 5 feet apart at 50 feet.
    I had 2 firearms instructors and me emptying 32 rds mags in a couple of long bursts (not the 2-3 rds bursts that are the best).
    So we sent 96 rds downrange. Result 3 hits, two non life threatening, one in the head that was probably a ricochet as the bullet keyholded.

    No doubt FA fire is very scary, but with decent cover it is not hopeless unless you think it is
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    I live 12 miles from a TVA operated dam. I think of the many possiblities of an attack on the dam and its wiring system that comes from it.
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    I might be confused about what ccw9mm has in mind.

    "Safe haven" in the article means a jurisdiction where the perps can train.

    "Gun free zone" is where they would love to strike.

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    Hopefully the Attorney General will review and analyze world events and reconsider the plan to raise taxes on firearms and ammunition...one can only pray...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfshead View Post
    Hopefully the Attorney General will review and analyze world events and reconsider the plan to raise taxes on firearms and ammunition...one can only pray...

    What plan to raise taxes on firearms and ammunition ? Hearsay or fact ?

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    not sure if this is a fact or not....I read it here
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    Our current administration and represenatives are too intellectually challenged to learn from the past or the mistakes of others.

    I fear what has been brought upon us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNUT View Post
    What plan to raise taxes on firearms and ammunition ? Hearsay or fact ?
    Actual bill in progress: hearsay (except for Bobby Rush's bill, which isn't going anywhere)

    Intent by the administration, or inclination by the administration to raise taxes or increase regulations the first time they think it's feasible: FACT.

    Hey, they're considering increases or have increased taxes on most things; why should ammo be any different?
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    Huh, well, Ted Kennedy has his private army following him around. He can afford to load their brass with hundred dollar bills, never mind the microstamped bullets.

    That is if he doesn't create a loophole for them, or just ignore the laws the way he normally does.

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    I have given this scenario a bunch of thought. They (Terrorists) do choose targets by a known lack of resistance and easy target acquisition (Just like Columbine BTW). College campuses and schools are easy pickings and they well know it. Beslan in South Ossetia a few years back was proof for all the world to see.

    I hate to think this way but it is a when not if here in the US. They will be US born too BTW. I keep reading eveything I can find on the subject and all the wrting is on the wall
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