June 4th, 2009 10:24 PM
Sounds like a story for the press, I sure the chief would love to explain the lack of response to the press.
June 5th, 2009 11:31 AM
Whatever you thought the law was regarding carrying a firearm into a situation like this one, if I had made the commitment to go into a high risk meeting such as this one, I would have carried regardless of my perception of possible technicalities. What I mean by this is as good, honest, hard working, every-day law-abiding citizens that we are, I would not risk my safety (by not having my gun with me) over the possibility of me breaching a law, especially if I'm not even sure if it would be a breach.
A lot of us admit that we would have had to go into this situation and get our computer back, just like you did, even knowing deep down that it really isn't worth it (I think some of us would go on principle; no-one likes being wronged like that). The bottom line to always remember is would you rather be judged by twelve or carried by six?
My thought process would have been: "I'm certainly taking my guns, now is it worth the possible six-digit lawsuit if I have to end this turd's existence to protect myself if it goes South on me?". That is where you have an even bigger decision to make than a non Concealed Weapons Permit holder would have. Had you definitely planned to take your firearm, you may have thought through the whole process of going at all a little differently if you knew for sure that there were CWP rules to contend with.
June 6th, 2009 06:26 PM
What Michigan LEO's? The State and Counties are laying them all off, and the Gov. is cutting loose prisoners faster than ever.
Originally Posted by Slim_45
Les Baer 45
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June 7th, 2009 10:42 AM
There are soooo many tough Guys here.
They would of done this or done that, all with outcomes that would of been much worse then yours.
You did fine.
Your Leo's suck.
Watch your back. They know you But you know one of them.
Like me with my Meth head drug house next door. Stay alert.
You not only can "Talk the Talk but you Can, Walk the Walk".
June 7th, 2009 12:04 PM
I think ya did good - but - you better watch your back more than usual now.
For God, Family and Country!
June 7th, 2009 03:29 PM
My 2 cents...
I would have taken two guns and a whole bunch of friends to that meet!!
Glad it went well...
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June 7th, 2009 04:24 PM
Definitely all of the above, especially Receiving/Possession of Stolen Property*. I don't know why the police wouldn't make an arrest for that. That's really sad. Maybe the Mayor & police Chief need to hear about this.
Originally Posted by nedrgr21
What you described is the exact reason why I always lock my car when I have to make multiple trips to & from it.
I must say, you've really got a pair. I wouldn't have gone into that situation unarmed but well done!
*In most states, Receiving Stolen Property is defined as being in possession of stolen property within a reasonably short time after the property was actually stolen. One day later certainly qualifies as a "reasonably short time". The penalties for Receiving are usually the same as those for theft itself and since the value of your laptop was over $500.00 (the value probably varies from state to state) we're probably talking Grand Theft.
An armed populace are called citizens.
An unarmed populace are called subjects.
June 7th, 2009 08:04 PM
Badass man, I would have done the same thing, but I would have had 17 rounds of "Who's your daddy" sitting at 4 o'clock.
Glad you got your stuff back, and if he comes back for more, then you can introduce him to Roscoe.
June 7th, 2009 08:29 PM
you sure have a sorry police dept. in Austin they would have worked w/you.
what you did took a lot of guts but im not sure how smart it was.
this kind of thing is why i never live in apts.i lived in apts when very young but not for a long time now.
i wish i had a neighbor like you.
congrats on your personal victory..
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.”
― Thomas Paine
June 10th, 2009 11:03 PM
dude, must be hard to walk around with those brass ones. kudos on ya mate. it seems that these yahoos live around you and you better carry and watch your back for the next year.
next time ask a friend with a long gun to overwatch the meet. do you remember the scene from "heat" in the abandoned outdoor theater? you never know when you need a friend with a G3 stoked with .308s.
"embrace the suck" - our warriors in the sandbox... it implies that do the best you can in impossible conditions.
"no plan survives intact upon contact with the enemy" - wisdom of the Grunts.
June 11th, 2009 10:46 PM
are you in columbus?
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