16 year old BG Shot in Irving, TX

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    16 year old BG Shot in Irving, TX

    Reported in the Dallas Morning News

    Apparently a 16-year-old kid attempted to rob some guy in his truck at gun point. He didn't count on the fact that the guy just came back from a gun club meeting. Oops.

    Sad to see anyone get shot, but glad it was the BG instead of the victim. Incidents like these can be very positive in reducing crime rates and bolstering support for CCW.
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    I amended the subject line Blinky and removed your post's first line too - now not needed.

    Well - in my book a 16 year old is well able to know right from wrong and face consequences for his actions. Very stupid kid and sad to say I have to find little sympathy for his getting shot.

    Mess with fire - get burned! I hope other stupid kids know about that and get the message - in fact all BG's of any age.
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    Yea it sucks and is sad but this the exact reason we carry, to keep thugs from being thugs and make them the statistic and NOT us.

    It is what it is, the kid got what he got for doing what he shouldn't have. I agree with Chris as I also find little sympathy for him getting shot for trying to rob a guy just sitting there in his truck minding his own business.


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    Compassion, not sympathy...

    I should clarify, that it is not sympathy I feel, but compassion.

    The kid took a risk and lost. His negative action brought upon him a negative reaction. Had I been the intended victim faced with a 16YO gunman, I too would have pulled the trigger in self-defense. There is not a shred of doubt in my mind about that.

    I have compassion, however, for this individual to have to learn a lesson the hard way. What was missing in this individual's life that led him to this point in his life?

    Having compassion is looking at the core of life. People don't start out life as criminals, they are made through a serious of events in their life.

    People want to be happy, all people do. However, some are misguided in their attempts to achieve happiness, such as this young individual. He may be labeled as a punk, a criminal, etc., but he is a human being. I hope, if he survives, he can utilize this lesson and be a better person for it. The choice is up to him.

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    And yet another in number for the anit's to decry an inocent shot by a evil gun. They are just a droolin over adding him to their statistics.
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon J
    And yet another in number for the anit's to decry an inocent shot by a evil gun. They are just a droolin over adding him to their statistics.
    My thoughts exactly! "X number of kids are shot every year with evil handguns!"
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    there should be a BG shoot count on the news every night. too bad, but guess some people need to be taught the hard way. Better him than some new mother or perhaps a true child.
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    stupid kid gets what he deserves, u try to rob someone at gun point, the victem doesn't know if u just want to steal their car or harm them as well, must victems would prob be scared and nervous and would not hesitate to react with a few gun trigger pulls!
    no sympany for stupid petty theft people!
    what good to society are they in the first place?? if they go around making these crimes, go to school, get a job, don't steal from honest living human beings!

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    I agree strongly with you blinky.

    Just don't forget that the time to feel compassion for his misguided youth is after the fact, not during the commision of his robbery.

    Personally I get angry. I get angry that this former human being forced me to shoot.

    Taking someones life from them is a traumatic event to experience. It completely overshadows the traumatic event that caused you to shoot in the first place.

    So I get angry that I had to go there again.
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    yeah thats true, no one is born a criminal.

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    Hopefully this story gets out to his friends. Go out and get a job if you need money. I agree that it is sad that a human life was lost, but when it comes down to me or you, I promise I will win everytime. It's stories like this that make CCW so beneficial. If the BG's don't know who is carrying, they will be less likely to try and victimize you. Let us not forget the guy who shot the 16 yr old is the victim here, not the punk kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCurry1
    Hopefully this story gets out to his friends. Go out and get a job if you need money. I agree that it is sad that a human life was lost, but when it comes down to me or you, I promise I will win everytime. It's stories like this that make CCW so beneficial. If the BG's don't know who is carrying, they will be less likely to try and victimize you. Let us not forget the guy who shot the 16 yr old is the victim here, not the punk kid.
    I agree with you on this. I'm curious about the round used in this since it passed through the BG.

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    The last line of the article: "The man in the truck will likely not face charges, Officer Tull said." Well, I sure as -stuff- hope not.

    I also would hope the family doesn't bother filing a civil suit. Maybe the kid will decide "lesson learned, good to be alive" and straighten out...and take some of his friends with him. Almost too much to hope for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    I amended the subject line Blinky and removed your post's first line too - now not needed.

    Well - in my book a 16 year old is well able to know right from wrong and face consequences for his actions. Very stupid kid and sad to say I have to find little sympathy for his getting shot.

    Mess with fire - get burned! I hope other stupid kids know about that and get the message - in fact all BG's of any age.
    Ditto for me. A 16 year old can kill you just as dead as anyone else.

    It is a shame that a youth chooses to throw his life away though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimber05
    I agree with you on this. I'm curious about the round used in this since it passed through the BG.
    If the guy was coming from the range maybe it was FMJ?

    Gutsy move by the GG, and a hard lesson learned by a young BG!
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