This can happen to you so make the necessary changes.

This can happen to you so make the necessary changes.

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    This can happen to you so make the necessary changes.

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    A couple of weeks ago a friend told me that someone she knew had
    their car broken into while they were at a football game. Their car was
    parked on the green which was adjacent to the football stadium and
    specially allotted to football fans. Things stolen from the car included
    a garage door remote control, some money and a GPS which had been
    prominently mounted on the dashboard.

    When the victims got home, they found that their house had been
    ransacked and just about everything worth anything had been stolen.

    The thieves had used the GPS to guide them to the house. They then
    used the garage remote control to open the garage door and gain
    entry to the house. The thieves knew the owners were at the football
    game, they knew what time the game was scheduled to finish and so
    they knew how much time they had to clean out the house. It would
    appear that they had brought a truck to empty the house of its contents.

    Something to consider if you have a GPS - don't put your home
    address in it. Put a nearby address (like a store or gas station) so you
    can still find your way home if you need to, but no one else would know
    where you live if your GPS were stolen.

    MOBILE PHONES
    I never thought of this.......

    This lady has now changed her habit of how she lists her names on
    her mobile phone after her handbag was stolen. Her handbag, which
    contained her cell phone, credit card, wallet... Etc...was stolen.

    20 minutes later when she called her hubby, from a pay phone telling
    him what had happened, hubby says 'I received your text asking
    about our Pin number and I've replied a little while ago.'

    When they rushed down to the bank, the bank staff told them all the
    money was already withdrawn. The thief had actually used the stolen
    cell phone to text 'hubby' in the contact list and got hold of the pin
    number. Within 20 minutes he had withdrawn all the money from their
    bank account.

    Moral of the lesson:
    Do not disclose the relationship between you and the people in
    your contact list.

    Avoid using names like Home, Honey, Hubby, Sweetheart, Dad,
    Mom, etc....

    And very importantly, when sensitive info is being asked through texts,
    CONFIRM by calling back.

    Also, when you're being text by friends or family to meet them
    somewhere, be sure to call back to confirm that the message came
    from them. If you don't reach them, be very careful about going places
    to meet 'family and friends' who text you.


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    Good advice, though often there are other things in a car that can lead someone to where you live: auto registration, insurance cards, business cards, bills/letters, etc. Of course, a smash and grab will more likely mean a stolen GPS unit.

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    Sage advice there. Constant vigilance is required these days, no doubt.

    Now - how can we stop the robber barons on Wall Street and the White House from stealing our hard-earned money???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy-SS View Post
    Now - how can we stop the robber barons on Wall Street and the White House from stealing our hard-earned money???
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    Do castle laws and no retreat laws apply?

    (Joke, BTW...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernset View Post
    Something to consider if you have a GPS - don't put your home
    address in it. Put a nearby address (like a store or gas station) so you
    can still find your way home if you need to, but no one else would know where you live if your GPS were stolen.
    Great advice, I never even thought about that.
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    Here's what we need to push car manufacturers to put in all US vehicles......

    YouTube - MagnaVolt Commercial - Lethal Response

    Magna Volt - Lethal Response...... And it won't even run down your battery!
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    Seems reasonable enough to me.
    "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22:36

    "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Thomas Jefferson

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    Great info.

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    As to the cell phone issue, alot of people are now using I.C.E. (in case of emergency) as a contact. That may also give away a loved ones information. Good post.
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    I have a "TrunkMonkey" taking care of my ride.

    (for those who haven't seen one yet: HERE )

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    Actually first responders often look through the victims cell phones to try and find parents/significant others so they can contact them immediately and let them know what the deal is.

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    I would have never thought about that! Of course, my wife has GPS mounted on windshileld 12 inches away from garage doot opener. Thanks! Good idea putting close-by address as "home". Usually, after 15 years, when I get within a thousand feet of my home (from any direction!) I can manage the rest unaided by the TomTom.
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    This is why I do NOT have any identifiable information inside my car, when I exit my car. Oregon driver's licenses have the home address on them, as do the automobile registration papers and proof of car insurance. Good point, regarding GPS.

    Think about modern phones, as well, ie, a BlackBerry. I've never been willing to store my own name/phone/addr in there, particularly with phones coming with GPS and other features that can help give away the "keys."

    Be cautions of anything that:
    • Tells a criminal where you live; and
    • Tells a criminal that you're not there at this moment.

    So long as you avoid doing those two things simultaneously, you're generally fine unless they clop you upside the head and take your papers.

    * One of the reasons I enjoyed California was for the paperwork. CA driver's licenses only had to have truthful addressing, but it did NOT have to be the home/physical address. Important distinction, if you lose the wallet or get mugged. Imagine what happens to spouse and kids at home, if you get mugged, with a criminal who knows (a) where you live and (b) that you're not there. Bad juju.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcabin View Post
    Actually first responders often look through the victims cell phones to try and find parents/significant others so they can contact them immediately and let them know what the deal is.
    That could be a HIPAA violation, which will give you a BIG FINE from the Feds.

    IMHE Searching through the cell phone is an afterthought, and done less than one percent of the time. Most of my patients are not incapacitated to the point of not being able to communicate.

    If they are unresponsive, I have more important things to do than chit chat with their BFFs. If they are dead, they'll still be dead tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernset View Post
    GPS 20 minutes later when she called her hubby, from a pay phone telling him what had happened, hubby says 'I received your text asking about our Pin number and I've replied a little while ago.' When they rushed down to the bank, the bank staff told them all the money was already withdrawn. The thief had actually used the stolen cell phone to text 'hubby' in the contact list and got hold of the pin number. Within 20 minutes he had withdrawn all the money from their bank account.
    People who are sharing a bank account with a significant other, need to sit down and decide on a code word or something similar, for this type of situation.

    Something that neither one would forget, and wouldn't have to write down---anniversary date, dog's name etc. Don't use a birth date or anything else that would appear on a stolen driver's license etc.
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