People without weapons, when SHTF, how will you/they obtain firearms?

People without weapons, when SHTF, how will you/they obtain firearms?

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    People without weapons, when SHTF, how will you/they obtain firearms?

    If you had no guns, and SHTF, economic break down over night.
    Which is pretty much how its predicted to happen.
    I don't mean an economy slowly getting worse, I mean the stock market dropping 2,000 points, then 2,000 more the following day.

    Everything falls to hell within a week, what do you do to get guns?
    You try to go to your local gun shop, but the smart folks got there before you, and whats left he double or tripled the price on.

    what do you sell in order to come up with the money?
    he's only accepting gold or silver for guns and ammo maybe.

    What do you think the majority of non gun owning americans will do if total shtf and they need to be armed?


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    Have you heard the term "Liberty Guns"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcabin View Post
    What do you think the majority of non gun owning americans will do if total shtf and they need to be armed?
    Scream for the gub'mint to come save their dumb unprepared arses.

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    ....Bend over?
    I know not what this "overkill" means.

    Honing the knives, Cleaning the longguns, Stocking up ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaSon View Post
    Have you heard the term "Liberty Guns"?
    liberty guns?

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    Your asking the wrong crowd. Everyone here is covered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcabin View Post
    liberty guns?
    WWII LIberty pistol - Google Images

    Cheaply made pistol dropped to the resistance during WWII.

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    Plenty of guns and ammo at my house. I can hunt and protect for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcabin View Post
    Everything falls to hell within a week, what do you do to get guns? You try to go to your local gun shop, but the smart folks got there before you, and whats left he double or tripled the price on.

    what do you sell in order to come up with the money?
    he's only accepting gold or silver for guns and ammo maybe.
    I think anyone who waited that long is out of luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jcabin View Post
    What do you think the majority of non gun owning americans will do if total shtf and they need to be armed?
    Some still won't realize they need to be armed. They've lived in condition white so long that a dose of harsh reality still won't change their minds. I don't know what they would be thinking since I don't understand that mindset, but they'll be complaining about something... probably that we need more gun laws to stop the armed gangs who are roving.

    Some who truly recognize the threat may run for the hills to escape. But due to their life of unpreparedness, they will have no supplies, no extra gas, no stash of cash prepared for such an emergency, and no real plan.

    Others may barricade themselves in their homes and hope nothing happens--the head-in-the-sand approach that has worked for them up to this point.

    Some may try to beg a gun and ammo from someone they know is armed.

    If they still have electrical power, they'll be blogging, emailing, and calling someone to share their hand-wringing.


    Note: none of my neighbors know I am armed. If something like this happened, I would help some, but not all, and I make no apologies for that. I can't save everyone, so I'll have to make some decisions on which families to help.

    Decisions already made.

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    I can tell you one thing... I'm not giving/loaning any of my guns to those who were too foolish to prepare beforehand.

    And especially those who thought I was an idiot for having so many guns and those I tried to tell that trouble was brewing on the horizon.

    Now if Grady is a little short on ammo or supplies... He can hang with me any time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    I can tell you one thing... I'm not giving/loaning any of my guns to those who were too foolish to prepare beforehand.

    And especially those who thought I was an idiot for having so many guns and those I tried to tell that trouble was brewing on the horizon.
    My exact feelings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Now if Grady is a little short on ammo or supplies... He can hang with me any time!
    Thank you, Sir, and the same to you!

    But I have a feeling neither of us will be short for awhile.

    Previously I had posted that I would not share with any neighbors, but then we got to know a family next door who has treated us very well. I mentioned to them once the reason we don't get involved very much in the neighborhood is because of concerns we would be targeted due to racial issues. This family said, in no uncertain terms, they found that unacceptable, and they would stand with us.

    So yeh, I'll share with them. They have 5 kids, and I've been here when most of them were born.

    But the other neighbors who have treated us like crap... they better think about heading west.

    Someone messes with me, I have the option to forgive them.

    Someone messes with my family, I'm going to ruin their day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcabin View Post
    If you had no guns, and SHTF, economic break down over night.
    Which is pretty much how its predicted to happen.
    I don't mean an economy slowly getting worse, I mean the stock market dropping 2,000 points, then 2,000 more the following day.

    Everything falls to **** within a week, what do you do to get guns?
    You try to go to your local gun shop, but the smart folks got there before you, and whats left he double or tripled the price on.

    what do you sell in order to come up with the money?
    he's only accepting gold or silver for guns and ammo maybe.

    What do you think the majority of non gun owning americans will do if total shtf and they need to be armed?

    Everything falls to **** within a week,
    Is that what they mean by "SHTF"?

    how its predicted to happen.
    Who predicted what, and how is it supposed to go down? To what extent do you depend on the 'prophets'?


    what do you sell in order to come up with the money?
    he's only accepting gold or silver for guns and ammo maybe.
    Sell? For what? Cash? Forget capitalism and exchange of money. "Money" will be nothing for what you'll need. You are talking about financial collapse right? Forget "money".

    What do you think the majority of non gun owning Americans will do if total shtf and they need to be armed?
    Need to be armed? Need......that's a word I have trouble dealing with sometimes. Human beings need water to survive. I need a new television. Take these two statements as an example. What folks need happen with circumstance mainly in those terms. "When the need arises" for example. That's it in a nutshell. 'It' (whatever it may be) is only 'needed' when the time comes for most.

    What do I think of the majority of non-gun owning Americans will do if the SHTF?
    I could care less actually. They've made their own decisions in the past......they'll either live with them, or they'll die with them, plain and simple. Since they don't own guns now, I know they have no backbone...therefore, I know they won't be resorting to crime and mischief in order to get weapons they "need", since they didn't have basic survival in mind to start with. These types would even be squeemish to take a gun off a dead body. What could they do? In the semi-suppressed part of my brain, I know what might transpire, and it's nothing but evil, and I can't say here. I have no compassion for those who won't take care of themselves within means....when the SHTF, I cannot afford to.
    What do You think they should or would do? When the SHTF, you'll need to think about you. If you don't, then you're screwed. See you on the other side.............maybe?

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    Foolish un-armed people are not my problem.

    I've got enough (and then some) to take care of my immediate family.

    Everybody else is on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grady View Post
    Thank you, Sir, and the same to you!

    But I have a feeling neither of us will be short for awhile.

    Previously I had posted that I would not share with any neighbors, but then we got to know a family next door who has treated us very well. I mentioned to them once the reason we don't get involved very much in the neighborhood is because of concerns we would be targeted due to racial issues. This family said, in no uncertain terms, they found that unacceptable, and they would stand with us.

    So yeh, I'll share with them. They have 5 kids, and I've been here when most of them were born.

    But the other neighbors who have treated us like crap... they better think about heading west.

    Someone messes with me, I have the option to forgive them.

    Someone messes with my family, I'm going to ruin their day.
    I would welcome you with open arms into my neighborhood Grady. Of course ya gotta build cause there ain't to many houses (only one) within a half mile of me.

    I have enough weapons to do all from protection to hunting big and small game. The problem lies with the people from populated areas migrating to the country to lay claim to the land and anything else they need when the SHTF. They will do whatever to whomever to get it. I would most definitely team up with my neighbors for the safety in numbers affect
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