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    Ya mace would be a good idea, my wife has some...but maybe some for me to carry would be good as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny256 View Post
    Ya mace would be a good idea, my wife has some...but maybe some for me to carry would be good as well?
    I always carry OC pepper spray as a less than lethal option as well as flashlight which is perfect size as a Kubotan impact weapon.

    I feel it is beneficial to have a couple less lethal options if you are going to carry a gun. JMHO.


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    Take the pitbull test. Pick the dog that looks like the dog you saw. Is it a pitbull?

    Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull

    Very cool test. It took me 3 attempts to get it!
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    Kenny256,

    Your reaction to the idea of stabbing the dog isn't uncommon (and your own explanation of your reaction as being "too personal" isn't either.) I read something about knife fighting that said it is very difficult for most people to actually insert an object into another person when it came right down to it. Most of us have an innate aversion to penetrating another's body in violent way. I believe they said most knife wounds are cuts, not stabs. Pulling a trigger is usually a pretty impersonal, abstract action. You don't see the bullet, you don't have to exert yourself to cause the wound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adroitus View Post
    Kenny256,

    Your reaction to the idea of stabbing the dog isn't uncommon (and your own explanation of your reaction as being "too personal" isn't either.) I read something about knife fighting that said it is very difficult for most people to actually insert an object into another person when it came right down to it. Most of us have an innate aversion to penetrating another's body in violent way. I believe they said most knife wounds are cuts, not stabs. Pulling a trigger is usually a pretty impersonal, abstract action. You don't see the bullet, you don't have to exert yourself to cause the wound.
    +1 on that, Very true!
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    I have NO aversion to protecting myself, or my loved ones. I have stared death in the face and have mustered the courage; saying to myself, "To #ell with this! I'm coming out of this alive, and in one piece!" Stab, cut, shoot... it's all the same to me! If the animal is attacking, or viciously threatening to do so, that's sufficient provocation for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick7340 View Post
    Take the pitbull test. Pick the dog that looks like the dog you saw. Is it a pitbull?

    Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull
    Nice link. The term "Pit Bull" has become a generic catchall for any mutt with a bad attitide. The American Pit Bull Terrier is a registerable and recognized breed with the UKC. The media can never seem to get it right.

    I've owned Pit Bulls (real ones) in the past and I can assure you that none of mine would have behaved like the one in the OP's post. If anything, they would have ran up to him wanting to be petted. It's all in how you raise them.
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    Your right, I know it was a mix looked just like my brothers (He rescued one)

    It was the brendal color...so I was pretty sure...
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    So what would you do if you firearm failed during a human assault?

    I'm not trying to be funny, this is a serious question.
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    Its a revolver...It wont..

    If it was a HUMAN attacker....and lets say my WIFE was with me...no question I would do it.

    I would use the knife, If it was just me I would still use it against a person.
    It think it being a dog was what but me off to using it....dont know why.
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    Dog came for Mrs. Clean and I today while on our daily walk. Backed off and went home before I had to do anything except talk firmly to it.
    Could have been a serious issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny256 View Post
    Its a revolver...It wont..
    why.
    I have lot's of revolvers fail, many linked to ammo, but also from hot loads torquing stuff to just bits breaking.

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    I have been viciously attacked twice. Once a English Mastiff and once by a pit bull. I posted this on another site. Heasked about the protective qualities.

    I can vouch for the protective part. My customer had one....for about 6 months and one day it decided it did not like me. I serviced the pool weekly, so the dog saw me every week. I was walking back to my truck and the dog came around the corner of the house...and its eyes told me I was dead. It attacked...it went for my left hand/forearm, but I lifted it out of the way. So it bit me about 4" to the left of my boys. It knocked me flying, but I stuck my arm back and did a flip, which is what I believe saved my life. He lunged at me again, but my flip moved me away from where he was attacking. He brushed against me and missed. The pool equipment was on a 4 foot platform(flood plain). I was able to climb on top of the filter. He tried for the next 15 min. to climb up there and kill me. The homeowner finall came out of the house and put it up

    I ended up with a nasty black bruise and 4 bumps, where his fangs were located, sticking out about the size of eggs. He was not able to get hold of me...I was very lucky.He weighed 187 lbs. and I weighed 193. They finally got rid of him, because it happened again.


    The pit bull happened while I was walking my Lab/Wiemy mix. It was running the neighborhood with a couple labs. The pit bull was about 50 yards away and charged. It ran up and attacked my dog. My dog grabbed it by its throat/jaw and hheld on...and started kicking the crap out of the labs, who were also trying to jump on my dog. The labs gave up. I then started kicking the pit bull. He ran off 20 yards and turned around and attacked again. He attacked 3 times and each time my dog grabbed him by his throat. My dog broke off a fang in the pitbulls face! I kicked the living crap out of the pit bull and he finally limped away. He was hurting.

    I always carry my gun when walking my dog. I carry a "walking" stick in hand also.
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    Here's another way to handle loose dogs:

    My wife's parents have a lake house that's in the most redneck (BTW I'm a redneck and these folks make me appear refined), nasty, meth-smoking neighborhood that you can imagine. Everyone up there lets their dog run wild.

    In addition on my cc, I also take an aluminum baseball bat with us when we take our dog for a walk. When the inevitable rabid mutt approaches us, I simply bang the bat on the street. Somehow, these dogs are able to put 2 and 2 together to realize that that sound could easily be the sound of the bat meeting their flee-bitten head, and they wander off. It amazes me, but they all are able to figure it out pretty quickly! So, no shouting, drawing gun - nothing. Just a little tap of the bat on the pavement as we stroll.

    Otherwise I'd have to shoot every dang dog in the neighborhood, and ruin our weekend dealing with police and the angry neighbors.
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    glad you made it out of that one ok. i wouldn't have any problem shooting a dog if it was going nuts trying to attack. i would have used the knife though too. glad your ok though...i bet you don't walk down that street without your gun again. :)
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    Sometimes I feel silly carrying while walking around my neighborhood, but this reinforces the need to be always ready, always be prepared. I can't always carry, but will always carry when I can.

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