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    Sometimes I feel silly carrying while walking around my neighborhood, but this reinforces the need to be always ready, always be prepared. I can't always carry, but I will always carry when I can.


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    As soon as it turned to me I would have sliced and diced with the spyderco.

    Large dog against me and my family, as much as I love dogs that dog will be eye-less and disemboweled when I'm done. I have no pity for an animal like that.

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    I was once approached in a threatening manner (head down, growling ect.) by a Shepherd mix. I had just gotten back to my truck from deer hunting, and the dog was between my truck and myself. The dog wasn't a full out charge mode, but was slowly and aggressively advancing toward me. I know I should have shot the dog, but instead, I put a 30-06 round into the dirt right in front of him, from about 1o feet away. The bullet was close enough to to kick dirton him and I guess the muzzle blast at that distance was terrific, but the dog turned tail and ran. I know, that if he hadn't ran, i would likely not have had time to chamber another round, but I love dogs and did not want to shoot one, and, he was almost an exact twin of my dog that had died the year before, and that I had buried not far from the spot where the incident happened.

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    Chills of Pet Semitary right there.
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    Mavrik took your test from now on all dogs are pits except rottie owned one Being a dog owner I hate it when people let them run lose I have no problem shooting a dog

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    Unfortunately East Texas is known for the dog fighting rings... Pitbulls are in the news several times a year in our part of the state for KILLING children or mauling people. If a dog came at me and/or my family (pets included) I'd have no problem using any means necessary to put it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny256 View Post
    Had I of had my gun on me Im sure I would have just shot the dog,( I have lived on a farm my whole life shooting an animal is no problem) but to me cutting a living creater was a lot harder to do.
    Back when I lived in WI and before I carried regularly, a girlfriend of mine at the time had a Jack Russel that we watched get run over by a jeep. Front and rear wheel... I had to knife the dog to put it out of it's missery. It isn't like the movies, they don't just cease to live at the slice of a knife. It was one of the most morbid things I've had to do and relived it in a few dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Rod View Post
    These days......no matter where you are...or where you're going, or what you're doing...there's an ever increasing possibility that something, or someone is intent on ruining your day and violating your peace. It's become a fact of life (and I hope my wife posts about her experiences while walking with her sister on community property park/athletic complex this past week) as to how you can't seem to go anywhere nowadays and mind your own business. It irks me sometimes how our liberties and our pursuit of happiness seem to be at risk with every turn. Life aint what it used to be in this country, and the moral devaluation present in some of the population is to blame as well as a few other items I won't mention here.
    Back on track with the non-human threats we might face daily........my advice other than carrying would be having some pepper spray or even carrying a baseball bat or walking stick. I wouldn't be apprehensive to taking a large dog down in calf roping style and cutting it from ear to ear if that's what it took and if that's all I could do.....but I really don't want to get that up close and personal with an animal on a mission. More words.......try to refrain from kicking at a dog......this would generally mean loss of flesh, pain, blood loss, or it taking you down to it's level by way of your clothing, and when you go down, you are at a disadvantage......#1 for the shock of hitting the ground, #2 for not being able to see more than 180 in a single plane, and #3 limited movement since your back is against the wall (ground). Animals intent on prey won't tell you to get up and fight again either.

    Now you know, and you did well in this circumstance. Glad you and your dog made it out alive and well.
    Great advice RamRod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hkchris View Post
    As soon as it turned to me I would have sliced and diced with the spyderco.

    Large dog against me and my family, as much as I love dogs that dog will be eye-less and disemboweled when I'm done. I have no pity for an animal like that.
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    I love dogs but I'm not going to let one bite me. I will do whatever it takes to protect myself,my dogs, and other people from a dangerous animal. If I can scare it away , I'd rather do that but if it leaves me no choice ,either by proximity or intent, it's a goner. This is from someone who has taken in a bunch of strays, straightened them out and found them homes and also incurred huge vet bills on behalf of strays that I've found run over in the street. I love dogs but if it's me or Poochy, Poochy is in trouble.
    I've run into similar incidents as the OP that taught me to always be armed when walking my dogs. Too many morons let their animals run loose, and it's usually not the ones that have the tiny dogs that you can just swat away.

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    This one hits home.

    I just got back from running my 2 dogs...and my legs are still shaking.

    A dog jumped a fence and came charging at us. I had my OC spray in my hand when the owner came running outside.

    He says: "It's okay. He doesn't bite."

    I wish I had a nickel for every time someone told me that. I'd have enough to go buy a new gun!
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    UPDATE:

    I took my dog on the same walk (we always go this way) gun on my hip and we had not incident!
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    I was bit by a really big dog and if it had not been for my heavy duty wrist watch band it would have been very bad. As it turned out it was not to bad only a small cut and some bruising. That is not the only time I have been bite, but I hope it is the last. My plan is if I have time to deploy a tactical folding knife and open up attacking dog's wind pipe or if I can not do that go for his eyes. These events happen quick and a firearm is slower for me than my lock blade. He may bite me but he is not going to like what he get in exchange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post

    He says: "It's okay. He doesn't bite."

    I wish I had a nickel for every time someone told me that. I'd have enough to go buy a new gun!
    Really? He has teeth!

    Quote Originally Posted by searcher 45 View Post
    I was bit by a really big dog and if it had not been for my heavy duty wrist watch band it would have been very bad. As it turned out it was not to bad only a small cut and some bruising. That is not the only time I have been bite, but I hope it is the last. My plan is if I have time to deploy a tactical folding knife and open up attacking dog's wind pipe or if I can not do that go for his eyes. These events happen quick and a firearm is slower for me than my lock blade. He may bite me but he is not going to like what he get in exchange.
    Since the dog is trying to bite I wonder if I could just shove it past the teeth and down his throat. Might take more motor control than I'd have at the time.
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    I & my dog have been approached by 4 dogs in the 3 years we've had him, 2 of which actually attacked. The first I was completely unprepared for, and thankfully a neighbor came out and got control of the dog before it could do any damage (though I did twist my knee pretty badly). It was the incident that really got me started thinking about carrying.

    The second was walking with it's owner - unleashed - and charged from about 75 yards away. No damage that time either, though I had some choice words for the owner. I was carrying, but it was in a public park w/people around, so unless / until it was actually clamped onto me or my dog, I wouldn't have either drawn or fired. This is the incident that led me to my current practices while walking our dog...

    - Walking during daylight: I have a small canister of Sabre "Personal Defense Spray" in hand at all times, and will not hesitate to use it on any animal I feel threatened by.

    - Walking after dark: I carry a 3 D-Cell MagLite. While not as effective as the baseball bat or walking stick (which in a perfect world I would prefer), it can be a very effective weapon while still being easily justified to the more skittish neighbors, as I do need a light to be able to see the poop I have to pick up...

    - At all times: G19 on hip. I won't use this on animals except as a last resort, i.e. the animal is on top of us, I've exhausted my other options, and I can basically fire essentially 'down' on it, so that there is little-to-no chance of errant bullets causing unintended damage.

    I'm not advising anyone to follow my lead, though anyone who walks a dog should really think through what they are going to do if / when they are attacked by another dog. The biggest problem I only identified after being attacked is that I only have my right hand available for self-defense, as my 30lb, freaked out dog is occupying my left hand. You've really got to think though what you will do & how you will do it before it happens, because once you are attacked, you will have little to no time to decide on a best course of action - you'll simply need to react as best you can. I'm quite confident that my reaction will be significantly better next time because of my having analyzed what I did wrong previously.

    Good luck, and here's hoping that none of us have to deal with this again...
    "It is only as retaliation that force may be used and only against the man who starts its use. No, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction, the only destruction he had a right to choose: his own." - John Galt, from Atlas Shrugged

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