Can I shoot my bf's gun?
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November 8th, 2009 12:43 AM
Can I shoot my bf's gun?
Good evening! I found this forum on a Google search while trying to find some information on gun laws in Michigan. Hopefully you will be more helpful than Google has been!
My boyfriend owns a gun, primarily for use in self-defense situations, and we live in the same apartment. My question is this: since I do not own the gun (it is in his name), am I legally allowed to shoot it if I am in my home? Obviously if the situation arises I won't hesitate to use it to protect myself, but I am curious whether I'm allowed.
Thanks in advance and have a good evening.
November 8th, 2009 12:43 AM
November 8th, 2009 12:58 AM
In Colorado that should be legal, as long as the situation itslef is legal. Self defense is self defense whether or not it is an object you own or not in my opinion. You don't need any sort of concealed carry permit to carry on private property that you are authorized to be on. All the permit grants you is the ability to carry it in public, it grants you no other rights towards using it.
I hope that helps at least a little!
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November 8th, 2009 01:10 AM
Sure you can, unless it would be illegal for you to own a gun. A gun isn't "in" anyones name.
November 8th, 2009 01:22 AM
Well, I don't know..............can you? Ever shot it before? I say practice with it. Legally? In a SD situation? I wouldn't suggest shooting it in your own home unless it was for self defense. If you're going to need it to defend yourself, then the least of your worries would be legal issues.....save your life first. I would dare to say that if you're legally allowed to own a gun yourself, then you'd be perfectly fine or within your rights to use your boyfriend's gun if he gives you access to it.
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November 8th, 2009 01:29 AM
Yes, you may certainly defend your life using whatever means necessary. However, if you have to use a firearm, make sure you know how to use the weapon.
Also, welcome to the forum.
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November 8th, 2009 01:39 AM
Are their any reasons you could'nt legely own a gun--(being a convicted felon, recipeint of a ppo, convicted/possible conviction of domestic violence,etc etc), if you are free and clear of any issues then yes you can, IMHO. There could be and most likely will be legel issues you will have to deal with if you are restricted and still use a gun, but that should be the least of your worries if you have to defend youself. Now outside your home--at the range or target shooting in somebodys backyard--unless YOU have a cpl your boyfriend HAS to be present/in control of his gun at all times, 'IE' you can shoot it all you want he just has to be there.
November 8th, 2009 01:51 AM
Yes you can as long as you dont have any Felony charges that prohibit you from owning/using firearms (but even in that situation i would still save your own then worry about legal later)
Just a note: if you are legally barred from owning guns your BF may not have them in the house either since you live together & you would still get in trouble even thought they are his...
You can use any weapon in your home to defend yourself or others, now you are NOT legally allowed to carry his weapon on your person outside of your home, even if you were to have your own CCW & thats due to the fact you are not married.
Now if you two marry & both have a CCW then you can legally carry each others handgun's outside of your home.
I hope this helps & welcome to the forum neighbor
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November 8th, 2009 02:10 AM
Take a look at this for your state, It will show your the state laws regarding firearms and self defense:
The info in the posts above is correct. It is legal for you to posses a firearm in your home assuming you are over 21 (for a handgun) and not been in serious trouble with the law (felon, some drug convictions, domestic violence...) If you wish to carry a loaded firearm outside your home or in a vehicle most states require you to obtain a "concealed carry permit". The handgun law site will give you info.
In general, it is wise to use a firearm ONLY when your life is in immediate danger. It is always better to stay out of trouble and try to avoid dangerous situations. Read this excellent info by some of our members:
Cornered Cat - Table of Contents
if you are really bored, you can read some of the federal firearms laws:
ATF Online - ATF P 5300.4 - Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide 2000 (9/05)
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November 8th, 2009 03:09 AM
yes. you can use it for self defense. Take your BF to the range some time!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
November 8th, 2009 03:17 AM
from Central Florida!
MI has gun registration for pistols (your friend's gun must be registered), but as long as you or you friend are not felons you're good to go.
Read here... http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbys...gunlaws_mi.htm
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November 8th, 2009 10:27 AM
Welcome to the forum aussiegrl14.
As long as the gun is legally owned by your boyfriend, and you are not prohibited by law from owning a gun your good to go.
November 8th, 2009 11:56 AM
Wow, thanks for all the quick responses! This helps a lot and I really feel better. I don't have much experience shooting but I aim to change that as soon as possible so that if I ever need to protect my life and my bf isn't around, I'll be able to.
November 8th, 2009 12:04 PM
Practice, practice, and more practice.
Originally Posted by aussiegrl14
Take a class from an NRA certified instructor.
Get your permit to carry concealed.
Find a gun that you really enjoy shooting and tell BF it's on your Christimas wish list.
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November 8th, 2009 12:18 PM
Maybe not where YOU live......
New York....has it's own rules.....
Originally Posted by Butch
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
November 8th, 2009 12:25 PM
Originally Posted by aussiegrl14
My better half didn't have expirience with guns before she came over, and isn't all that enthused about them, but she doesn't limit me from playing with them.
The question you're asking is, from what I gather, one concerned about the legalities of doing so. I am not a lawyer, and this does not fall within my scope of arrest powers, but I think I can provide some insight to the subject matter at hand. What you are asking is, "Is it legal for me to use my boyfriend's gun to save my life?" From my training, reading, discussion with others and deeply held beliefs, YES!
Even if you were a convicted felon, or other prohibited possessor, you have what is called "The doctrine of competing harms". While it may be illegal for you to use, own, possess, or fire a gun the greater danger is in being killed. I'm not referring to a prohibited possessor carrying or keeping a gun, but rather of one using what is available in the situation at hand. Also, if the person you shoot dies, don't forget that you have in fact commited homicide. There are cases where homicide is legal. Every self defense shooting where the attacker dies is in fact homicide. It is up to the local prosecuting attorney, investigators and juries to determine if it was in fact justifiable or legal.
My spouse worries more about violating the law in regards to using a gun than most people. I've found that to be a cultural difference, in my many discussions with aussies, both here and there. The key thing is, can you articulate why you did what you did? To get you started I suggest you read Massad Ayoob's book, "In The Gravest Extreme". It will go a long way to helping you to understand the conundrum of justifiable and legal self defensive matters. If you ever get the chance take his class, as it's well worth the money spent.
If you do end up using your boyfriend's gun, plan on being arrested. Even if you're not arrested, if you plan for the worst you are able to cope with it. I tend to look at things from a "worst case scenario" perspective and make my plans based upon that.
Take care and stay safe,
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