November 9th, 2009 06:54 PM
Christianity and Self Defense
I just thought I would post a link to a series of blog posts I wrote on Evangelical Christianity and self defense. Here's part 1 of 4:
Christianity and Self Defsense, Part 1
Parts 2, 3, and 4 are linked at the bottom of each successive post. I enjoyed writing the series, so I hope it makes you consider.
My best to each of you and yours.
November 9th, 2009 07:07 PM
Thank you for sharing.
It may help answer questions that come up from time to time on this forum about SD and Christianity.
For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the son of man be. Mathew 24:27
November 9th, 2009 07:18 PM
That was a good read. Thanks for sharing it.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
November 9th, 2009 07:57 PM
<< Luke 22:36 >>
Then said he to them, But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Why buy a sword except for self defense?
November 9th, 2009 08:24 PM
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November 9th, 2009 08:31 PM
I thought the passage in Luke was "Sell your cloak and buy a Glock!"
Thanks for the blog...
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November 9th, 2009 08:33 PM
MinistrMalic, I read your series. It was very well thought out and written. Your comments on martial arts raised some questions for me. I am trying to find an art that is not in conflict with my faith first and foremost. What are your thoughts on Krav Maga as compared to the Indenosian martial arts? I am trying to find an art that can be effective to the practioner in a matter of months instead of years and has practical application in this present society. and it's circumstances. Sorry if I am being long-winded.
November 9th, 2009 10:02 PM
From another Pastor....a very good read! Good job. One of the best commentaries I've seen on the subject of self-defense. Thanks for sharing
November 9th, 2009 11:05 PM
Actually, it was "Sell your wool blazer and buy a SIG"....
Originally Posted by retsupt99
Great read which better equips me to speak with some of the pacifists I encounter. Thanks for sharing it, Malic.
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November 9th, 2009 11:13 PM
A lack of preparation on your part does not and will not constitute an emergency on mine.
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November 9th, 2009 11:19 PM
I was going to suggest a switchblade but I didn't want to start another caliber war.
Originally Posted by Beans
"I practice the ancient art of Klik Pao."
November 9th, 2009 11:44 PM
I would recommend Haganah. . I am over 65, 100% disabled and found this training to be beneficial and an alternative to using my Glock. . It is simple in concept, easy to perform.
Originally Posted by Barbary
I was concerned as I had dabbled in Martial Arts when I was much younger and was worried that I couldn’t do the correct Katas. Hand position, foot position, Etc. This is not a sport where they judge you on the very correct position of you hand, feet, or how high you can kick Etc,
It is simply a self defense course that allows you to defend yourself and walk away or you can take it into the eradicate mode . The choice is up to you, not your aggressor. I didn’t find my age and physical ability to be too much of a hindrance.
I wasn’t able to do the ground and pound that some of the younger students were doing, so the instructor taught me what I was able to do within my limited physical condition. Putting your aggressor on the ground and limiting his abilities does not required you to go to the ground with him.
There is a move in whuch you break the agressor ankle. It became a joke, (which I also took part in) in my class as when I preformed a self defese movement it always ended with " and then you break his ankle"
Even though it is an Israeli art it is not religious orientated.
There is no requirement or suggestion that you honor any religious figure unlike some of the Asian matrial arts
November 10th, 2009 12:23 AM
Well to me it's actually a double question. From a theological perspective I personally have no problem with Krav. It is a brutal art but has no idolatry within it that I can see. However, for the record I don't have a lot of experience with it and so my perspective is limited. YMMV.
Originally Posted by Barbary
My challenge with Krav (hmmm...better get some cover for getting flamed by Krav practitioners!) is it's execution. It is built and designed for the Israeli military. So that means young men. Strong young men. Sure others can use it, but I am concerned that as a 75-year-old it will not be helpful. I want an art that I can use throughout life.
Many arts are okay. I personally study American Kenpo. Find an instructor that isn't into the meditation and stuff, and whose philosophy is not that it takes years of study to gain proficiency with unarmed combat. At our school we believe that you gain from your very first class and can defend yourself in many situations right from the get go. Kenpo just makes you better at a skill you already possess.
That being said, there are no shortcuts to self defense. If you want to be proficient, a few months of training in anything will not cut it whatever anyone says. It'll make you better but not as much as you want. So find something you take joy in and stick with it. I have been studying Kenpo for about 3 1/2 years and enjoy it thoroughly. For me it is an extension of my armed combat skills!
November 10th, 2009 12:36 AM
It changes depending on who is doing the translating, it is not just word for word translation, the way they ordered sentences is totally different.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
you shall murder NOT
other times it is
NOT you shall murder
One day I would like to sit down with a Rabbi and learn to ACTUALLY read the old testement as written instead of someones translation. I would also like to ACTUALLY read the new testement too. There are people that spend their lives trying to do just that but I dont have that much patience.
The Jewish sages note that the word “ratsakh” applies only to illegal killing (e.g., premeditated murder or manslaughter) — and is never used in the administration of justice or for killing in war. Hence the KJV translation as “thou shalt not kill” is too broad.
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My duty as a Christian is first and foremost to protect the innocent. Whether the subject is Abortion, Crime, Capital Punishment, or any of the other life and death issues we face day to day.
Good read on the link too, thanks.
November 10th, 2009 01:35 AM
I wouldn't describe protecting the innocent as the first duty of a Christian, but it's probably in the top ten.
And meditation during martial arts training is a great time for quiet prayer.
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