Situational Awareness Sure Helps!
This is a discussion on Situational Awareness Sure Helps! within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; First off a little about my background, I’m a 34 year law enforcement veteran. I’m still on the job, and live and work in a ...
November 23rd, 2009 05:57 PM
Situational Awareness Sure Helps!
First off a little about my background, I’m a 34 year law enforcement veteran. I’m still on the job, and live and work in a rather high crime rate area. Throughout the years while away from my home I maintain a keen awareness of my surrounding both on and off the job. I’m pretty much in condition yellow most of the time. I’m also armed whenever I leave my home.
A situation this past weekend has caused me a evaluate the need to be armed at home even if it’s just to take the garbage to the street, or grab a breath of fresh air.
I had walked a lady friend out through my garage to her vehicle parked in the street.
As I started to walk back towards my open garage, my peripheral vision caught the headlights of an approaching car. I live on a major thoroughfare, so a passing car is something that usually goes unnoticed. What did grab my attention was the driver cut the headlights while still traveling down the street.
The car quickly pulled over partially blocking my driveway.
I quickly moved into my garage, quickly pressing the button to close the garage door.
As the door was coming down, I observed subjects exiting both the drivers and passenger’s doors heading towards my driveway.
After I was sure the door was closed, I ran up and grabbed a pistol. I heard the slamming of car doors and the vehicle sped away.
I’m convinced that I would have been a victim of a crime of opportunity, most likely, armed robbery, home invasion or worse.
The opportunity presented itself to a couple of scumbags just driving by.
As much as the incident shook me up, I’m glad it was I and not some other unsuspecting citizen. Living in condition yellow, helped me quickly realize that danger had presented itself and allowing me to safely retreat, grab a pistol to take further action if necessary.
I investigate violent crime for a living. I never gave a second thought to the possibility of being a crime victim myself. I sure consider it now.
November 23rd, 2009 06:05 PM
November 23rd, 2009 07:00 PM
even if you live in a good neighborhood it can happen to you, I am glad to hear that you are safe and nothing happend with this. It is sad that you can be a victim of "opportunity" just going about your daily life. It is very important to keep your eyes open and know your surroundings no matter where your at, crime is slowly moving from the "bad" neighborhoods to the "better" neighborhoods, and I am sure nobody here on DC.com thinks this way, but NEVER become comfortable and think this wont happen to me.
you did the right thing Randyc
November 23rd, 2009 07:16 PM
My wife thinks I'm paranoid because I have one in arms reach even at home, taking out the trash, mowing the grass, etc. I live in a nice sub division in a small economically depressed town. I would think bad guys would target nice neighborhoods. In my line of work, I have to deal with difficult people situations. Anyone can look your phone number up in the phone book and enter it in google and get a map right to your house. Scary.
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November 23rd, 2009 07:36 PM
In the last two yours I have become very situational aware and wife and I both tend to travel in condition yellow. Wife and I make a defense team and work together watching each others 6. We are not LEO or trained pro. but we are a team and a team harder to take down than just one person.
It is a very good chance that had the same thing happened at my home that was described by randyc74 one and probably both of us would have been armed and we just live in yellow ready to go to orange etc.
Yellow feels right for both of us and being armed feels right also.
NOT LIVING IN FEAR, JUST READY.
November 23rd, 2009 08:31 PM
November 23rd, 2009 09:39 PM
It's a shame that we can't feel safe at home. I had 2 incidents this past summer at home that made me re-think safety.
I walked into the middle of a swat operation with my crazy neighbor. The following week, I was in my backyard when that same crazy neighbor blew his house up.
BTW, he should be getting out of prison some time around Christmas. He pled guilty to 2nd degree arson and got 5 years in prison, with a 4 month shock incarceration program. So if he completes his 4 months of shock time, he'll be getting out in about a month.
"I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken."
November 23rd, 2009 09:46 PM
Patti, with a neigbor like that you have 2 choice.
1. Tear your house down and rebuild it Ala Burt Gummer from tremors
2. MOVE AWAY BEFORE IT ALL HAPPENS AGAIN
either way you do it, you will be safer and much happier)
BETTER TO BE TRIED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY 6
Hesitation kills faster than a bullet.
If your head is up your *$$ you are unaware of danger. You are in the perfect position to kiss it goodbye.
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November 23rd, 2009 11:16 PM
Patti: in your situation, I'd never be unarmed, except maybe in the shower, but the Glock would be on the vanity.
Randy: did your lady friend get away OK?
November 23rd, 2009 11:45 PM
Randy I felt sure that you protected your lady friend. How did she react to what happened?
NOT LIVING IN FEAR, JUST READY!!!
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nor the arrow for its swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory.
I love only that which they defend.
November 24th, 2009 12:08 AM
Very similar incident however with a not so happy ending.
Off-duty Vegas police officer slain arriving home
The Associated Press
Posted: 11/19/2009 08:07:57 AM PST
Updated: 11/19/2009 08:07:58 AM PST
NORTH LAS VEGAS, Nev.—Authorities say an off-duty Las Vegas police officer is dead and one or more assailants are sought after a shooting in the garage of a home in North Las Vegas.
North Las Vegas police Officer Chrissie Coon says the officer died in an exchange of gunfire with one or more assailants shortly after midnight as he arrived home near Lone Mountain Road and Bruce Street.
Coon says it may have been an attempted robbery.
Clark County Undersheriff Rod Jett says it appears to be a random act.
The name of the 30-year-old officer was not immediately made public.
Police: Slain Officer A 'Random' Victim
30-Year-Old Killed In Garage
POSTED: 7:19 am PST November 19, 2009
UPDATED: 8:00 am PST November 19, 2009
facebookdel.icio.usbuzzdiggreddit›› Email›› PrintNORTH LAS VEGAS, Nev. –– North Las Vegas police said an off-duty Metro police officer was shot and killed during a robbery early Thursday morning.
The body of the 30-year-old officer was found in the garage of his home on Emerald Stone Avenue near Donna Street and Washburn Road.
Raw Video: Metro Officer Killed
“Like so many people who come home and open up their garage door, he appears to be a random victim,” said Metro police Undersheriff Rod Jett.
Jett said it was likely the killer followed the officer at least part of the way home and intended to rob him. The officer was not driving his patrol car so there was no indication he was with Metro police.
“For him to lose his life in such a senseless way is tragic,” Jett said. “His poor mother, who comes out here for Thanksgiving, she’ll never forget this Thanksgiving, that’s for sure.”
The officer's mother, wife and two toddlers were inside the house when he was killed.
No arrests have been made and Jett could not say whether the killer was injured.
The killing was another blow to the Las Vegas Metro Police Department, which has lost three officers this year. Two others died in separate traffic accidents that were ultimately blamed on the officers’ excessive speed.
Police: Slain Officer A 'Random' Victim - Las Vegas News Story - KVVU Las Vegas
Jett says he had been on the police force about two years, and was assigned to a West Las Vegas patrol area.
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November 24th, 2009 12:51 AM
After closing the garage door, I ran up the stairs to grab my pistol off my living room end table. While running up the stairs, I heard the car doors slam and the car sped off. I turned off my inside lights, called the station, grabbed my shotgun and hunkered down in case these guys left anyone behind.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
November 24th, 2009 01:01 AM
"Anyone", can be a victim. The question is whether you want to be a 'survivor' or not. It probably gave you a new respect for what victims feel when things go down unexpectedly.
Originally Posted by randyc74
Good that you recognized it and was that situationally aware.
I always have a gun next to me or on me , except in bed. I dealt with way too many really violent folks (who were quite serious people) to take much for granted. Even if I take the dogs out at night in my own yard, I'm armed.
However, even if you had been armed.... what you did by closing the door, getting to safe ground, etc... was still the best option in my mind. Getting the situation into your favor was a good move.
November 24th, 2009 01:36 AM
With the exception of this error in judgement, I'm always armed when leaving the house. I keep a pistol on an endtable in my living room and transfer it to the nightstand when I go to bed. Believe me, I've replayed this scenario over many times in my head. I would have retreated inside my home even if I had been armed at the time. I would not have wanted to risk an armed confrontation in my driveway. If it was going to happen, I wanted it to happen inside my home, on my turf where I could better control the situation and if necessary take it to the next level.
Originally Posted by Eagleks
November 24th, 2009 12:07 PM
Randyc74 - Makes a guy think....I live in a relatively small low crime town and this definitely has me thinking a little more about paying attention to details and SA. Thanks for sharing.
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