This is a discussion on Woman shoots and kills intruder within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; GRAVE-YARD DEAD!!! This man was going to be a problem, If he got into her house!! Great support from 911!! You don't know what you ...
GRAVE-YARD DEAD!!! This man was going to be a problem, If he got into her house!! Great support from 911!! You don't know what you would do till its presented to you as a threat!! I get tired of People saying "Well I'da done this and I'da done that! Till your time comes in a bad situation, You don't know squat!! She done good, She will have to live with, the trauma,, But she will be alive for another Christmas with her family!!
That recording is really hard to listen to, but it definitely shows what the aftermath of a shooting like this is like.
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I listened to the dispatcher's conversation with the homeowner.At no time did the lady say she was afraid of the nut case that was trying to break in her house.She was more concerned about killing another human being.I am just glad her family taught this women how to handle a shotgun safely it saved her life! We need more stories where the good guys win!
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I loved that comment "Grave Yard Dead"... She also made an excellent shot, hitting him center of chest... Hopefully, she won't have to hard a time getting over the trauma, but it will take time....
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Unfortunately a frothing at the mouth "Brady Bunch" DA could fry her because she said "I will shoot him" - denotes a pre-meditated intent.
DA - "This poor injured man who was involved in a single vehicle accident in a rural area, and his lady friend who was injured and unconscious. He was suffering from shock, was obviously trying to get to a phone to call for help when this visicious woman grabbed her large caliber shotgun and shot the man with out ever speaking to him, by warning him to stop or asking what he wants."
NOTE - I am in no way defending the dead guy. Good for the 'ol lady!!! 100% support for her actions on this end.
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I don't care if the guy was breaking her door down to hand over her $1,000,000 check from "Publisher's Clearing House"!! No DA in the world could turn that FELONY into anything other than what it was....Breaking and Entering. I'm not sure about others interpretations, but "Fear for my Life" doesn't really need to be the main thought when it is my home that is being broken in to....violently. I don't really feel anything until AFTER the event, although I am aware of what may transpire.
At that point, I can call the DA and tell him myself that I plan on killing the man kicking in my door once he enters my home and still not be charged. It's not pre-meditated when it's defense, even if you plan how you'll react years in advance. This is homicide (the justifiable kind), not murder.
Some cases are too cut and dry, even for the Anti's. This is one of them..
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Like you, I'm not defending the intruder. But this situation doesn't seem as "clear cut" to me as others see it. I am bothered to some extent by the fact that the intruder can be clearly heard repeatedly knocking on the door. I haven't come across many burglars/rapists/murderers who offer that courtesy beforehand. And the 911 caller was very calm --- too calm for the average person, in my opinion.
I come from a small, rural community in western Kansas. and about half the size (pop. 1100) of Chandler, OK, and about a half-day's drive away. Everyone knows everyone ... including the town drunk, the druggies, the wife-beaters, etc. If this guy was historically as much of a local nuisance as the news media and LEO's claim, I would imagine the 911 caller knew of him too. While she had a legal right to shoot (and I don't disagree with that), maybe she didn't fear him as much as one might be led to believe.
Yep --- Mr. Billy Dean Riley was drunk (and/or high) and a dumb*** for trying to break in to the woman's house. But, if I had met the muzzle of a shotgun for every time I was drunk and dumb in my life, I would have been dead a long time ago. I certainly hope I never run off into the bar-ditch in a rural area near Chandler, OK, and need to use someone's phone in an emergency.
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Showed this to my wife and said see!!
PLayed this one for my wife last night. WOW what an impressive imidiate response from her to secure the house and get more traing with soome of my (our) firearms.
This was just after she read in one of my magazines about a couple sitting eating and watching TV (samething we do allot) when CRASH and in come an intruder.
So she got a double dose of how "safe @ home" is shattered in an instant.
I say it's bout time she got it. Plus she pregnant and her protectiveness is becomeing more profound...I LOVE IT.
This has happened in several states and the results have been the same every time. It has happened here in Ohio where a drunk person went to the wrong address and was shot because he would not stop.
Being drunk is not an excuse for turning off your thought processes.
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I came into this world screaming and covered in someone Else's blood, don't care if I go out the same way
When I was stationed in Washington State, the second happened to some guys in my platoon who were partying on new year's at one guy's house off post (a bunch of guys rushed the house when the wife answered the door, beat up all the guys inside and took their wallets). Since coming back home, the first has happened to a guy that goes to the same gym as me. The guy didn't answer the door, and the crook tried to break in through the bedroom window. My friend scared him away but was unarmed.
If someone breaks into your house, are you going to bet the life of yourself and your family on the intruder not being armed or not being violent?