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SA lesson for my son, and why I HATE purse carry!

This is a discussion on SA lesson for my son, and why I HATE purse carry! within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Thanks for the post, Bunny. I usually carry in a purse, a Maxpedition Fatboy. Its better than not carrying but I can't draw nearly as ...

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    Thanks for the post, Bunny. I usually carry in a purse, a Maxpedition Fatboy. Its better than not carrying but I can't draw nearly as fast as pocket carry. Good SA story, makes me think and be even more aware.
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    Good SA for both you and Bunny Jr, Flashlight +1. Forgive me, if I'm misunderstanding, but if you are going to purse carry, and I agree it's better than no carry, would it be easier to draw from a purpose built carry purse with an integral holster? Seems if you are just putting a regular iwb/owb holster in your purse it could be cumbersome to draw.

    Good job!
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    While the store situation was a candidate for putting your SIG into action, I agree with the previous post that the bum would have been much better dealt with by pepper spray. The gun response would have been likely overkill as either brandishing or shooting are going to involve police. Pepper spray would have resolved the threat without the legal complications of a shooting. Having both gives you options. Using pepper spray first with your SIG in reserve would have been ideal. Teaches Junior the value of appropriate response and not over-reacting to a situation.

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    Let's see... :)

    Ok, I bought a fantastic surefire flashlight for my trip to "The Spa" but promptly misplaced it when I got home. My bad. I should have gotten a new one. That was a definite reminder.

    I carry my "purse" stuff on a wristband. It looks like a sweatband but it has a hidden zipper and I carry my cash, ID, and gum in it, and no one's really the wiser. If you see me with a purse, there's either a gun, or a small rescue animal in it. That's the ONLY reason I'd wear one.

    I should have just OC'd, but like I said, it was an iffy area of town and the last thing I wanted to do was freak anyone out or be on the wrong end of a Bunny With A Gun call. I OC in my town and the few towns nearby, but mostly because I've done so without incident and I trust that the folks here won't just freak out. (SO far they haven't).

    What I SHOULD have done, in hindsight, was change my clothes before Jr. and I went out. Shoulda Coulda Woulda.

    I did test out some CC purses at the EB show today, but alas, all seemed to have some major design flaws, so I didn't order any. However, I did see a fantastic display over at the Taser booth, and perhaps Taser and OC spray, both nonlethal defense, might be something to consider. I have a baton on my keychain, but it still requires me to be close to a potential attacker. I like the things that give me distance.

    Well, live and learn, I guess. And shop for more toys, right? :)
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    good job on your breakdown of the evening's events
    good job on seeing what was happening and educating the little bunny

    others have said flashlight and maybe a paddle to be able to quickly OC
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    Good job Bunny :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Do you carry a light (flashlight)? I ask because a high-intensity light in the vagrant's eyes would probably give him pause...and when he goes to shield his eyes, you'll be able to see his hands....just a thought
    This is a very informative thread...and this post right here....excellent! Never thought of this. Thanks.

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    I did test out some CC purses at the EB show today, but alas, all seemed to have some major design flaws, so I didn't order any.
    Bunny - could you elaborate on this? I'm interested to hear your thoughts re good CC purse design vs bad CC purse design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pax View Post
    Bunny - could you elaborate on this? I'm interested to hear your thoughts re good CC purse design vs bad CC purse design.

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    I was going to ask the same.

    I had to be shown the proper way to use mine :-/ (And I dont mean drawing)
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    LOL.... I'm always asking my grandkids (who live with me) to inform me if there is something to be aware of, as a game. They are good at identifying situations and people.

    One guy was walking (late summer ... 88*F out) and I asked them what's wrong with that guy. My grandson (10 yrs old) instantly spouts out... he's wearing a thick hooded sweatshirt with the hood on his head when it's hot out, and both hands are in his pocket too. Good Job and good lessons for them. Then , it just becomes 'habit' for them.

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    Good job, Bunny, especially the vagrant.....authoritative voice, clear commands, and hand on the weapon (hopefully in condition 1).

    The lessons that you are teaching your son are invaluable.

    Overall, I give you an A+.
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    Bunny,

    You might look into a concealed carry purse with instant access to the gun from the end rather than the top. Many of the holster companies offer them.

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    Patty -- I always carry it condition 1 :)

    Ok, the purse thing.

    Well, I'm right-handed, and so I carry any shoulder bag on my right shoulder. Since that's also the hand I would draw with, I need the gun to be instantly accessable, preferrably on the outser part of the purse so I don't get caught up in the straps. The way the new Galco purses are designed:

    First of all, they have LOCKING zippers. The rep said it's great for when you're in the car and your gun needs to be in a "locked" container. First of all, if I'm in the car, my gun in ON me. Secondly, if I leave it in my car, all by its lonesome, it's not going to be in a huge leather purse. The leather purse all alone in the car screams "break in and steal me!" right?

    Plus the locking zippers sound like a tactical NIGHTMARE. When SHTF, your fine motor skills go to heck. Ask anyone who ate bad Mexican food and has an URGENT need to unzip their pants! Anyhow, it seems like a poor idea.

    The way the zippers were situated, there was no way to grab the gun in any kind of quick draw. I tried positioning the "gun" forwards and backwards, wearing the purse with the outside zipper to the outside, and then to the inside. The only way to draw quickly with my strong hand would be to wear the purse on my left side, but that's where my son/husband normally walk. (Somebody bonked into the Sig on my right hip one too many times!) And then to try and maneuver the locking zippers with my left hand...which is dumb and useless on its own anyhow...it just didn't work at all.

    On the plus side, all 4 guys with me at the show were amused at the comedy stylings of Bunny Vs The Purse. So it wasn't a total wash.
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    There are times I carry in a purse. I chose Coronado Leather:

    Coronado Leather, makers of handcrafted, concealment leatherwear for law enforcement and those interested in high quality leather jackets, handbags and carrycases for firearm concealment

    It has a side compartment made specifically for your gun. Easy to get to (no digging around in the bottom of the purse for your gun).
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