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    Watched the show last night at midnight!

    I agree with those who have posted that the outcomes would have been different with some arms and proper training.

    What struck me was the fact the family was not unified, and there had been no discussions on "what if...and then". Not to be a chauvinist, but if the wife (and teen for that matter) would have whined and disagreed less they would have fared better. She did good bailing the guy out in the warehouse scenario; but still didn't wake up. (I would not have left the pistol, nor would I have left the B.G.'s rifle; which actually could have turned the outcome.)

    There is not time in those circumstances to talk out the theory about what you are facing and its validity. (Although they didn't even do that)

    Now is the time for talking.

    Interesting show. It obviously has generated some discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DistantHorizon View Post
    I would be more impressed if firearms and ammunition made that list.
    Check out page 139---

    There is mention of firearms..


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    Quote Originally Posted by DistantHorizon View Post
    I know very little about the Mormon faith, but my respect for it just rose a notch or two. I would be more impressed if firearms and ammunition made that list.
    It did.

    See page 145'ish.

    Dirty

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    what show ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boscobeans View Post
    Check out page 139---

    There is mention of firearms..


    bosco
    A good friend of mine is Mormon. His wife is going to teach me how to can, grind wheat, and bake bread. In exchange, I will teach both of them how to shoot and I'll help them pick out reliable weapons.

    He was telling me that their church believes they will be the ones to defend the constitution in the end days. I don't know about that, but it was good to hear that their religious leaders have been discussing this for many, many years.

    Mormons are definitely survivalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Getting back to the movie and away from John of Patmos, much of the movie was factually, actuality, and historically correct concerning what the majority of Human Behavior will quickly evolve into during some major cataclysmic or societal altering event.

    That having been said More Than A Few depicted scenarios would likely have had radically different/better outcomes had the family been defensively armed.
    Once they "set out" for Idaho they were really nothing more than wandering potential victims.

    I am not saying that normal everyday good folks should revert to being aggressive armed predators but, they absolutely need to be defensively armed as a very first concern.
    The family was so unprepared...they were basically sheep. They hesitated to get out of L.A., and it nearly cost them their lives.

    One thing I noticed after reading Patriots by James Wesley, Rawles, he said over and over "Give until it hurts". Stockpile enough food/water/ammo for your family, but also stockpile extra for charity.

    This reinforces the old saying "what goes around, comes around". Do a good deed for someone in need, and it will be returned to you down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boscobeans View Post
    Check out page 139---

    There is mention of firearms..


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    Ah, I just scanned the table of contents and didn't see anything. The first pages of text ("Book of Gomer Parable") are an enjoyable read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miklcolt45 View Post
    One serious terror attack which shuts down oil and gas production in the U.S., and it will be only a matter of weeks (at most) before the thin veneer of civilization peels away. No fuel for food trucks and no way to stock grocery store shelves. Electricity eventually shuts down and there is no drinking water. The emergency reserves owned by the gubmint will be for THEIR use, not ours, because they don't really care about us.

    Then, people who will do ANYTHING to feed themselves or their children will do ANYTHING....

    I don't even think that the terror attack would have to be here. If OPEC shuts off sales, I believe it will be only a matter of time.
    Really almost all of our transportation infrastructure is vulnerable. Pipelines run all over the US and less than 1% of their length has any security presence and that is really only a fence in most cases. Similarly train tracks, interstates, bridges etc. All of this stuff was built by people who never thought about a scenario where someone intentionally tried to dismantle or disrupt it (similar to the internet).

    Similarly our constitution and capitalism works on the assumption that people will operate honestly and ethically, when enough people participating in those systems no longer operate ethically the whole thing falls apart. I think that is the direction we appear to be heading as our society has become more and more Machiavellian. The symptoms of this are already evident in the financial crises, ponzi schemes and running up of debt. Any of these things create the greater probability of a catastrophic event and if several of these things hit at once the event will be much more severe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    The family was so unprepared...they were basically sheep. They hesitated to get out of L.A., and it nearly cost them their lives.

    One thing I noticed after reading Patriots by James Wesley, Rawles, he said over and over "Give until it hurts". Stockpile enough food/water/ammo for your family, but also stockpile extra for charity.

    This reinforces the old saying "what goes around, comes around". Do a good deed for someone in need, and it will be returned to you down the road.
    I agree with charity and helping to protect and provide for others who are unable. My question is when do you think the charity should begin? If there is a collapse, "patriot" style? I live in a rural, but highly vacationed area in close vicinity to nyc and nj. If **** went sour, they would come here in hordes. I refuse to be charitable till atleast the first horde kills eachother off.

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    Living in Utah I can say first hand that I have a few good Mormon friends....they are very much survivalists. Many of them (my friends) have some considerable firearms collections...same folks also recently applied for, or already have, their concealed permits. They are not against arming themselves.

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    I voted not sure.
    If it does, it does. If it doesn't I have recreational uses for just about everything I have that could be classified as survival gear.
    I mean really, what is surviving an apocalypse more than a really really long camping trip in potentially hostile territory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcabin View Post
    I agree with charity and helping to protect and provide for others who are unable. My question is when do you think the charity should begin? If there is a collapse, "patriot" style? I live in a rural, but highly vacationed area in close vicinity to nyc and nj. If **** went sour, they would come here in hordes. I refuse to be charitable till atleast the first horde kills eachother off.
    That's a good question. It's also an individual one. Every one has there own ideas.

    Obviously, my family comes first. But I would give food to someone who was starving.

    I think that when we prepare our store rooms, we should store a little extra for charity.

    Keep in mind that items can be used for bartering.

    You are correct, the people who are fleeing from the cities will be refugees and more than likely they will be in full panic mode and extremely desperate. That's a really bad scenario.
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    I hear you. Doggone!
    I was watching that and everything "Dear Ol' Dad" did made me want to chuck a can of Coke at my television set.
    ME~~> ....watching that show~~~>

    Well, not quite THAT bad but, their overall lack of basic common sense and their general mindset combined with their unpreparedness even after they KNEW that big problems were likely comin' their way was kinda grating on my nerves.


    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    The family was so unprepared...they were basically sheep. They hesitated to get out of L.A., and it nearly cost them their lives.

    One thing I noticed after reading Patriots by James Wesley, Rawles, he said over and over "Give until it hurts". Stockpile enough food/water/ammo for your family, but also stockpile extra for charity.

    This reinforces the old saying "what goes around, comes around". Do a good deed for someone in need, and it will be returned to you down the road.

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    Since I'm now entering the winter of my life, I'm not sure. However, I do know that it isn't too far away. Once Iran launches any nukes towards Israel and if any of them actually make it to detonate, it's all over.
    “Monsters are real and so are ghosts. They live inside of us, and sometimes they win.”
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