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Sheepdog vs. Witness

This is a discussion on Sheepdog vs. Witness within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; In SC we have the "alter ego" rule which provides a legal reason for you to intercede on someone else's behalf if you believe that ...

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    In SC we have the "alter ego" rule which provides a legal reason for you to intercede on someone else's behalf if you believe that the other person is in imminent danger of "great" bodily injury or death; you can assume that if that other person was you, you would bring into play deadly force. From the story, the kicking that is described is not, IMO, bringing into play imminent danger of "great" bodily injury or death; short of standing by (which you did) and calling 911 (which you did) there really is very little else you should or could do considering the fact that your innocent intervention could have escalated matters if the "kicker" had more of an arsenal than just his foot.


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    Just mho,......

    Per your recounting, I see it as a 'textbook' example. Sorta' the practice of 'first, do no harm', right? The self analysis, as to the feeling of 'coward' is understandable. That is emotion, which, your rational thought processes obviously contradict. Caveat: I am not a Psy/chiatrist-chologist. I only wrote what seems to me common sense. However, I may be as full of it as a six week old puppy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ming View Post
    Good job IMO. I agree with your 3 points. No reason to be upset with yourself.
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    None necessary. Your actions and the reasons behind them make good sense to me.

    ^^^^^^^^^^YEP^^^^

    I agree with these guys Saber, I think what you did mirrors what most would have done.



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    I think your reaction to this incident was handled as you best saw it fit. Have you had any feelings of doubt, that maybe this incident needed more action from you? Many years ago I witness the beating of a small person being punched and kicked by a much bigger guy to the point of unconsciousness. Te victims father begged for help from bystenders that ignored his plea. No one wanted to get involved and the beating continued. My lack of involvement has bothered me a lot. I felt I should have done something.

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    I think your reaction to this incident was handled as you best saw it fit. Have you had any feelings of doubt that maybe this incident needed more action from you? Many years ago I witness the beating of a small person being punched and kicked by a much bigger guy to the point of unconsciousness. The victims father begged for help from bystanders that ignored his plea. No one wanted to get involved and the beating continued. My lack of involvement has bothered me a lot. I feel I should have done something.

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    Domestic situation is a no-no...till you are sure it isn't, then and only then can you help. Since somebody is already helping, then you did the right thing by keeping your distance and be a good witness. It is all you can do...congratulations for keeping your head on your shoulders.
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    I think your reaction to this incident was handled as you best saw it fit. Have you had any feelings of doubt that maybe this incident needed more action from you? Many years ago I witness the beating of a small person being punched and kicked by a much bigger guy to the point of unconsciousness. The victims father begged for help from bystanders that ignored his plea. No one wanted to get involved and the beating continued. My lack of involvement has bothered me a lot. I feel I should have done something.

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    Sounds good to me. Someone was already on the scene, observing from a distance was a good call.

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    I would have done the same thing. Looks to me, like you did good.
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    great job in my opinion...you are not law enforcement and dr phil isnt looking for a helper...

    a domestic quarrel or street disagreement is not your business and you did a great job keeping law enforcement informed...approaching the situation is an unnecessary risk and not needed as the solution played itself out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    . From the story, the kicking that is described is not, IMO, bringing into play imminent danger of "great" bodily injury or death; short of standing by .
    I bet I can kill you with my foot. I bet I can break ribs, punture lungs, rupture spleen, bruise heart, collapse a lung. What do you consider "great" injury? This question comes up a lot on many forums. Is a good butt whoopin a threat of permanent or great harm. I have know people to end up in the hospital for a week from one good punch. Where is the line drawn?



    This is not directed at the OP, I would have probably done the same or similar.
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