i was robbed at gunpoint thurs night

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    tpurdin,

    thank you very much for sharing your experience.......

    this just confirms my practice of not only carrying outside the house, but INSIDE AS WELL.....the only time i ever take my gun off is when im sleeping, and then it is within arms reach........no kids in my house

    and as far as answering the door goes....my rule is i never, ever, ever open the door unless i am expecting you or i KNOW who you are.......having a weird relative/friend like in your situation, the door would have never been opened...PERIOD......

    i cant count the people who have come up to my door banging on it for whatever reason, and i am in plain view through the living room window, and i dont give a damn if they think im rude or whatever....I DONT OWE ANYBODY ANYTHING in my house, and that includes opening up a door for someone i dont know........just yesterday some clown pulled up in my driveway in some truck that sells "seafood and meat"....starts banging on my door, sees me sitting in the living room and starts yelling at me through the window......told him to get off my property NOW.....

    in your situation i dont know if having your gun on you would have prevented what happened since they got the "jump on you".......but im glad you came out unharmed......

    thanks for sharing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guns and more View Post
    Like you said you can move it when it isn't loaded with other stuff. His was.

    Okay, I knew I was in the minority when I wrote what I felt.
    No offense to anyone. But................

    They have you down with a gun to your head, and they carry the safe out, only to have to break it open later. Why didn't the guy with the gun ask you for the combination? Seems easy enough for me?

    I'm just sayin'
    Since when are criminals and thugs rational or predictable?
    If I end up wrong, I'll apologize, but I think you're hassling someone who may have genuinely been victimized and traumatized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guns and more View Post
    Like you said you can move it when it isn't loaded with other stuff. His was.

    Okay, I knew I was in the minority when I wrote what I felt.
    No offense to anyone. But................

    They have you down with a gun to your head, and they carry the safe out, only to have to break it open later. Why didn't the guy with the gun ask you for the combination? Seems easy enough for me?

    I'm just sayin'
    To be honest with you, I was wondering about the safe thing too.

    But then I remembered that not all safes are alike. Mine is about 800 pounds. But there are smaller safes out there that weigh a lot less. Two guys could certainly carry out a small safe.

    And, a light weight safe wouldn't be hard to bust a part.
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    Remeber the old adage "If you can't say something nice..."
    I thought we were here to discuss things.
    Maybe I'm wrong. (ask my ex, it wouldn't be the first time.)

    I just thought too many things didn't add up.

    You carry in your house all the time, but when you are receiving harassing phone calls from a weird guy who wants to come to your house, you BOTH decide this is the time to disarm?

    Obviously, 75 other people think I'm full of beans. So be it.

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    I think a range of opinions is good! All this chat just helps me think more about this whole situation, and then trying to convey it to the sheriff.

    Much to think about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorblade View Post
    I can't think of any situation where it might be better to be unarmed.
    I'm not going to rely on the good nature of my attacker to decide if I live or die.
    It may have saved them here. One gun, against multiple guns and invaders....who do not care what they hit.

    And you have a 3 yr old there. Because as I noted, they were going to break into the house one way or another...it was a set up. There's little doubt you would have had to use the gun...and I doubt they would have hesitated.

    I'm sure he would have drawn his gun if he'd been wearing it.....but then there would have been gunplay. And no one knows how that would have played out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Eh, it would be easy enough for me to verify the story if needed.
    I personally believe the time has come.

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    1) When the knock came at the door, and your son ran to open it and you warned him, told him NOT to open the door, yet when you saw it was the cousin, the one that both you and your wife felt "weird" about, the one that both you and your wife did NOT want back in your home, YOU opened the door to him. WHY?
    First sgt

    ^^^^YEP^^^^^^^^^

    Ugghhh. Makes me sick. Does this mean that a throw away cell phone is a good idea? We have plenty of old ones around. Maybe I'll leave one on my desk.
    cammo girl

    ^^^^GOOD IDEA^^^^^

    This way you can be on the phone giving the police ,info, HOW many?, what kind of car? what'd they take? This beats waiting for them to get to your house for all that.



    This should be a wake up call to everyone,that friends or family that fell off the radar and suddenly reappear may of been in Prison,It might be wise to try to get them checked out for any criminal history,and maybe meet in a coffee shop where they can't see what you have in your home if they are casing it.
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    I agree with jang here

    There is nothing wrong nor rude at all toward speaking to persons as through your door.
    Also there is nothing wrong at all with not answering your door if you are not expecting company.
    Additionally train up your kids to not never answer the door period. That is what adults in the house do. A three year old should not even know much less think to go answer a door. To them that is a concept that should be completely foreign, as for their own protection.


    I WAS SICK TO MY STOMACH reading this,

    I will not beat you up, metaphorically speaking, BUT, please watch your back, the associates of your cousin may think about retribution; unless of course they were the ones who narc'ed on him in the first place.


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    This is exactly why I have always said that if a family member is gone from our lives for more that 6months, no matter who they are or how close we were back when, they are a stranger and they get no special treatment.

    I'm glad you and your son are OK. I would have met this "Sam" someplace public the first time if at all.

    Please let us know how everything turns out for you.
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    I am sick and tired of this overly PC mentality. He briefly described the two home invaders other than his Cuz, and yes skin color is a good descriptor. The ridiculous news will announce that the police are looking for a criminal and they describe him has a “6' 300lbs male” leaving out one of the largest descriptors b/c they don't want any sort of problems from consumers of their advertisers’ products. Perhaps in the future if people of short stature can start pushing media to leave out his “height” portion of the description, and, overweight groups can push them to not describe his size; we can all start looking for a male wearing blue jeans. Shouldn't be hard to find, I'll probably find him down the street.

    And something else, if Asian guys stormed into his house and now he's a bit prejudice of Asian people for awhile, I wouldn't dream of holding it against him......
    And I’m not some Racist guy either, my family is Venezuelan, and if it was a Latin guy, say it was a Latin guy.
    Rant Over…

    Sorry, just the fact that "THAT" was brought up makes my blood boil...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guns and more View Post
    Like you said you can move it when it isn't loaded with other stuff. His was.

    Okay, I knew I was in the minority when I wrote what I felt.
    No offense to anyone. But................

    They have you down with a gun to your head, and they carry the safe out, only to have to break it open later. Why didn't the guy with the gun ask you for the combination? Seems easy enough for me?

    I'm just sayin'
    When my boyfriend and I were victimized, we moved in an extreme hurry. We had no packing supplies so we took the guns out of his stack on safe and put everything from our office inside. It was full of anything you can think of and weighed at least 200 lbs. However, because of it's shape... it was easily moved by my boyfriend and my brother. So, depending on the type of safe he had it is extremely possible that this happened.

    In fact, when we were robbed there was only an AR-15 in our safe and it wasn't bolted to the floor or wall and the thieves didn't attempt to take it. We were very surprised they didn't

    Finally, the lock on our safe is just a key lock that could easily have been picked or pried open. So It just depends on what he has.

    To the OP - your situation is much more personal than mine was. My heart goes out to you and your family. I am so glad that it was only material things that were taken from you. Please, take the advice of others and see a professional who specializes in PTSD. IMO there is nothing you could have done better, your and your son escaped alive.

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    "tpurdin" thanks for sharing your story & iam sorry that some are criticizing your actions (and even your word) but honestly in that situation there was not anything you could have done except not answer the door in the first place but like you say the whole "family" thing can cloud your judgement.
    This story sure makes me think & wonder what in the heck could i have done if i was in your situation & there are no good answers once that door came open.
    Iam just glad that you & your son are ok & that is what matters most. I sure hope they catch all involved soon & your family can start sleeping again........Good luck & be safe
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    Slim, one option, if planned for, can be to retreat to and defend a 'safe room'. Just do not open that door! ID who's there and then if necessary, get to safe room.

    Because as I've written, IMO they would have come in whether he opened the door or not. It was a set up from the start :-(
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    you survived -that's what counts

    This was very traumatic. Take care of yourself. Count your blessings and thank God your alive to take care of your family.
    Thanks for sharing your story with us. I'm afraid that to many people in general would have found themselves in your situation and probably reacted very similarly. Don't beat yourself up, and learn from it. As much as I hate to admit it, I probably would have been vulnerable to the same situation. Maybe it was fate that told you to NOT have our weapon on you, thus why you/wife set them down; had you had it on your person (multiple attackers, potentially multiple guns) you would have reacted differently, and your attacker would have pulled the trigger, leaving your son fatherless and wife husbandless.
    I'm sure that you will handle your family's security differently in the future, but remember that the end goal is to survive the situation. You've succeeded once and can succeed again. Not every single assault by assailant requires firearm to survive. sometimes it just takes brains.
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    I told my husband your story. Yesterday when we went to a computer store we saw a security system. It is not really what I want but I do not want it to be just OK...I want the whole hogwash if I can...I have been thinking of a security camera for the front door actually. We do not have any small kids anymore in this house so I can leave my gun on top of the side table, which now, because of your story, I'd rather not...

    I think having a child in your house, you should think of a security system that you can route to your tv and/or computer quickly when someone is at the door. You can actually buy a system with 4 cameras or one camera sytem that can be added on with extra cameras later on.

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