You only did one thing wrong IMHO EVERYTHING
This is a discussion on Situation with Neighbors House within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Definitely agree with all those who say you should have stayed out of the house. I know he's your neighbor and sounds like you're pretty ...
Definitely agree with all those who say you should have stayed out of the house. I know he's your neighbor and sounds like you're pretty good friends, but I'm sure he has homeowner's insurance that would have taken care of him. It's not worth getting killed, hurt, or arrested over some stuff, especially if that stuff isn't even yours...
You only did one thing wrong IMHO EVERYTHING
"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .
So, let's review.
There is no chance anything is wrong, you did not risk your life or your son's life.
There is a chance you're walking in on an one or more possibly armed criminals, who could very well hurt/kill you and your son.
Can't have it both ways dude. Also, you may be interested to know that cops are allowed to read the internet. Committing a crime (a felony, depending on your state) then bragging about it on the internet is about as intelligent as, oh I don't know, barging around other people's houses playing SWAT.
I did a lot of house clearing in Iraq. Rifle, body armour, grenades, and a fire team of similarly armed Marines with me, and even then I hated it. For you to go strolling into a dangerous situation only underscores that you do not appreciate the possible consequences of your actions.
If you knew your neighbors weren't home, what possible reason would you have for trespassing, putting you AND your son's life in danger (and let's not pretend you didn't -- had there been an intruder inside that killed you, ran out the front door and saw your son there -- I think we know the potential outcome) to clear a house that doesn't even belong to you?
If I came home to my own house (much less my neighbor's) and found the door opened, I'm not going in. In Virginia, it's illegal to use deadly force upon someone to defend property. Stuff is stuff - I'm insured.
You shouldn't have a CCW IMHO and this illustrates my personal belief (however unpopular) that not everyone should be able to have them... but that's for another topic.
Fortunately you and your son are OK.... this time.
The way I would have handled this situation is as follows:
Immediately get my cell phone, gun, and flashlight. Enlist the help of my 19 year old. Call 911 and get the cops on the way. Tell my son to stay in our house, but surveille the neighbors house. If he sees anyone suspicious, stay put, and be the eyes and ears of the police.
Meanwhile, I'd have gone to the opposite side of my neighbor's house and done exactly the same thing, cell phone in hand.
Clearing a home is probably THE most dangerous thing a person can do, with or without training.
1. Call cops
2. Go back to your house
3. Try to contact homeowner
None of this required a firearm, your teenage son, or clearing a house.
You put yourself and your son at risk for somebody else's insured possessions. You played the ninja fool.
BTW, burglars who want your guns, silver, and flat screen TV often could care less about your truck. Your assumptions and thought processes are suspect.
In your put-down, you also use the term "alot". There is no word "alot". It is two words: a lot.
If you're going to insult someone's intelligence, take some time to ensure you spell correctly.
I would have called PD and waited in my house....
NRA Certified Rifle/Pistol Instructor
Accuracy ALWAYS WINS! So carry what you can hit with.
If you find yourself in a fair fight your tactics stink.
Good points and looking back I would do it differently.
I guess my question is, what if there was someone in the house and you shot them. Then what? In some states you can get away with it but in some you can not. What if it was a son of the homeowners and you accidentally shot them. I know this is all what if but the scenario calls for what ifs.
You can't do the wrong thing the right way.
You broke the law as soon as you left your property and entered your neighbors with a loaded handgun.
wow...I wouldn't talk about this any more If I was you. In person or especially on a public forum...
There were so many things you just did not think about in this situation and thats what gets people killed, hurt, arrested or the like. I hope you learned a valuable lesson and I hope some common sense and a thought process comes with that CCW your getting or your in for a heck of ride. You had good intentions I'll give you that, but that isn't going to save/help you.
Vermont does not issue Permit/Licenses to Carry a Concealed firearm. Vermont allows anyone
who can legally own a firearm to carry it concealed without a permit of any kind.