Book store scenario (for real)
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February 11th, 2010 12:06 PM
Razor, the context of the poem is not lost on me. Yet, a principle, is a principle..............
Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice--Moderation in the Pursuit of Justice is No Virtue. - Senator Barry Goldwater
February 11th, 2010 12:13 PM
It's interesting, the instructor in my CPL class, a LEO, said that it seems like in a store robbery, if the BG keeps everyone in the main room he usually doesn't hurt anyone. When they move them into a back room, closet, or cooler, it usually turns out badly. I don't know the percentages each way but it's something to keep in mind.
Originally Posted by rottkeeper
It seems like a few people here are of the same opinion.
I also recall an excellent article someone posted or linked to here (I think it was Jag) that said concerning car jacking/abductions, "Don't let them create a second crime scene". In other words do as they say until they tell you to leave with them. At that point assume you are going to die, and you pick the location so they will be caught.
February 11th, 2010 04:13 PM
i understnd that anyone threatening with a gun is a real threat....and i am not about herding...i draw the line there...what concerns me is the immediate desire for some for gun play to enter the scenario...my comments that this isnt the movies are real...i dont care how much you train or how good a shot you are..there is no way to predict what is going to happen when you introduce chaos and avoiding it unless its necessary is desireable...
Originally Posted by razor02097
what many dont consider is that when gunfire is introduced not only is the criminal going to become unpredictable and potentially wild....the other victims may become unpredictable and pandemonium is a real possibility...one has to remove themselves from their own little "i am in control because i have a gun" world and take a reality break...
when janq mentioned not having a God's eye view...i dont believe he was only talking about what God can see...theres a lot more to the scenario than a well placed gunshot and peaceful justice....
February 11th, 2010 05:12 PM
i probably shouldnt have laughed so for that bladen i apologize. but i did laugh at the manager and i explained to him that if someone came in with a weapon drawn demanding money or people will get hurt. honestly what makes you think AFTER he's gotten what he wants he just wont start shooting up the place. but again thats just me.
February 12th, 2010 09:23 AM
Yup I agree... it isn't the movies. I do not think I'm police or god for carrying... I carry so I can protect my life if its in danger. A gun isn't a divine item that always magically sways a situation. Its a tool. I learned how to use it. I train as hard as I can. I spend a lot of money on training, range time, ammo, snap caps, practice lasers (the bore sighter that sticks in the end of the barrel) and other such tools to give me an edge over the BG that wants to take my life.
Originally Posted by bladenbullet
There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
February 15th, 2010 07:56 AM
It will be considered hearsay evidence and wont be taken into account, plus they need a warrant(which requires a dang good reason) to take your computer granted they even know your apart of a forum. In the event that you are in a store when its robbed and they move you and the others to a seperate location, that is kidnapping, a felony, in which a justified shooting will carry no criminal liability.
Originally Posted by Kahrdoor
February 15th, 2010 04:55 PM
Dont think they could without a reason to seize the computer. Also, cache is only stored for so long. A lot of websites only keep the main page in cookies, ie not every page you visit, so they may not get a lot anyways.
Originally Posted by Kahrdoor
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