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Last week at a local mega-chain book store, some guy hid and waited until closing time, then pulled a gun, herded everyone into the back of the store, robbed them and took register receipts. Took off. Nobody hurt. What would you have done if you had been there, carrying?
I recently read an article that said one the first things the authorities do, if you are arrested for a shooting, is to confiscate your computer and check your responses to various web sites. I will be very careful about my responses as I would not with to have some of my words come back to haunt me in front of a Grand Jury and beyond.
If I was being moved to a back room I would believe that my life was in danger and take appropriate actions.
For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the son of man be. Mathew 24:27
All situations are dynamic, and as such have no concrete answer, but I decided long ago that I generally won't be herded anywhere if I think the intent is to silence witnesses, and I won't be put on the floor.
If at any other time I feel my life is in danger, and I can do so safely (for innocents), I will also consider weapon usage.
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I'm between book shelves hiding...let him take all the money.
Start herding the customers, me included, into a back room? I'm going to be looking for an opportunity to 'turn out the lights' on the BG...
I'm not going into some back room without a battle.
Proverbs 27:12 says: “The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.”
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Never trust a criminal with a gun not to do you harm...he has already proven himself untrustworthy. Historically speaking, herding is the first step of a mass execution plan.
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If he waited until closing time that means only employees were in the store so unless one of you was an employee and in violation of company policy carrying you wouldn't have a gun on you.
They lucked out that he didn't shoot them when he herded them into the back. As soon as that happened they should have turned and fought company policy be damned. I'd rather be fired then dead. I'd run over to the gun section and start throwing gun books at him.
Looked up the story. If I'm right it was a Sacramento Barnes & Noble and the guy was in jail on unrelated charges when they finally identified him.
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'Concur with the general sentiment here.
1. If he's presented a weapon, I assume he's threatening my life. Why would I not believe him? It's on. EDIT - Unless I can safely SORTIE my butt outta there - then I'm calling 911 from a safe position.
2. Hearding me in a back room? Well, no matter - I'm already looking for the right opportunity.
Staying in the perp's environment, hoping that I live to be a good witness and call 911 is definately not my strategy.
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