Robbed at gunpoint, Fight or Comply?

[OldVet]

That's a tough one, but in your cousin's situation I would have given him my $$ and car keys, and as he got into the car (with any distractions), or after getting in...BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.

Aw, man. Can't you get him before he is getting into your car? Why make a mess inside? Really!

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[9MMare]

"Proximity beats skill"

Totally depends on how the situation plays out and what opportunities present themselves, if any.

Remember....only YOU must ALSO check backstop. And do you care who's behind you if he shoots?

If anything, I would see if I could offer my wallet as a distraction or for them to lower their guard thinking I had complied and see if I could get away with getting my hand in my purse for my gun. If so, I wouldnt even draw, I would point and shoot (I have practiced this)....I would only attempt this if I truly thought he was going to kill me.

Ayoob talks about this (depending on how close they are) as an unwinnable situation for even an expert to draw. He recomments CQC to deal with bg's gun and then use his weapon or your own.

[retsupt99]

Aw, man. Can't you get him before he is getting into your car? Why make a mess inside? Really!

That's why I bought a leather interior, it doesn't stain as easily.

[9MMare]

That's a tough one, but in your cousin's situation I would have given him my $$ and car keys, and as he got into the car (with any distractions), or after getting in...BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.

Officer, I feared for my life, the guy said he was going to kill me, I gave him my $$ and keys, and he said that he was still going to kill me.
I had to save my own life. You can plainly see the gun he had, laying over there next to parts of his I.Q.

I will answer any other questions that you may have with my attorney present.

I dont think this would be seen as a legal shoot in most places. Most would say you were no longer in reasonable fear for your life. Which if he was leaving.....unless you claim he had his gun still on you (& it is still out) and you dont shoot him in the back/side....could be tough to prove.

Of course, it sounds like you'd take your chances with a jury, which we all must really, if we end up drawing.

[Cycler]

Ayoob talks about this (depending on how close they are) as an unwinnable situation for even an expert to draw. He recomments CQC to deal with bg's gun and then use his weapon or your own.

I've thought about that as well but you don't know the condition of the gun he's pointing at you - could be unloaded or un-chambered.

[9MMare]

Unless you can get off a central nervous system immediate stopping hit, even a fatally wounded BG will still have enough conscious time left to kill you.

Odds are all he wants is your money. If that is the sole demand, there is nothing to be gained by not complying.

If he tries to move you to a different location, put you in the trunk or appears to want to do something other than demand money, then, and only then, would it make sense to resist.

This. Esp. the first sentence. Any caliber....few first or even seconds STOP immediately.

[liljake82]

You need 2 more options.
#3 Comply then fight
#4 Feel the situation out

It's really going to depend on alot of things such as surroundings, who is with me, and if it seems like the BG really wants my stuff or something else.

[OPFOR]

Of all the questions that can not be answered with a simple yes or no, this ranks pretty high on the list.

There are circumstances that would dictate compliance, and there are circumstances that would dictate fighting. To think that there is one "correct" answer for all possible robbed-at-gunpoint scenarios is short sighted, to say the very least.

[Cycler]

Of all the questions that can not be answered with a simple yes or no, this ranks pretty high on the list.

There are circumstances that would dictate compliance, and there are circumstances that would dictate fighting. To think that there is one "correct" answer for all possible robbed-at-gunpoint scenarios is short sighted, to say the very least.

The question is not about a particular situation but if your plan is to resist.

I suppose I could have posted an option that states "I'll wing it when it happens".

The point of the poll/thread is to encourage dialog on this topic because I'm kind of split on this one. The better one plans for emergencies, the better off one will be when one arrises.

[SIGguy229]

Comply until you can gain an advantage....however miniscule....then FIGHT....until the fight is over...on your terms...

[JustInCase]

act like i am complying (go for wallet) pull out 380...

[Arko]

Comply until you can gain an advantage....however miniscule....then FIGHT....until the fight is over...on your terms...

That sums up my feelings. This is why I've always practiced H2H disciplines. At near contact distance my initial fight reaction would likely be an attempt at an overwhelming violent disarm. I likely wouldn't count on drawing first as my first action in this instance, but yes, I am more likely to fight rather than hope the offender just leaves after the robbery.

[ccw9mm]

For anyone who has done force-on-force type training with paintball or Simunitions type gear, have you ever successfully disarmed a "robber" who has a firearm on you as in this scenario ... without being struck by "bullets"? (Describe.)

[Arko]

For anyone who has done force-on-force type training with paintball or Simunitions type gear, have you ever successfully disarmed a "robber" who has a firearm on you as in this scenario ... without being struck by "bullets"? (Describe.)

Yes, I have. But I'm also a multi decade martial arts practitioner, and will readily admit it is not always successful. I am still willing to accept the risk in most encounters rather than depend on the charity of a lawless thug who is already committing one crime against me.

[Guardian]

Tough call, depends, if I see that he wants just my wallet and or car and that's all he ask for and is itchy to just get those items and go, he's got them and so long.

If he's cool and calculating in his approach and attitude and even gives em the hint that no matter what I do, I'm history, I'm going down fighting some how.