Defensive shooting and hearing loss.
This is a discussion on Defensive shooting and hearing loss. within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; My civilian audiologist & the V.A.'s call it, " Accoustic Trauma." Even with all military records, my V.A. Dr's reports, hearing tests over the years ...
March 10th, 2010 03:54 PM
My civilian audiologist & the V.A.'s call it, " Accoustic Trauma." Even with all military records, my V.A. Dr's reports, hearing tests over the years showing a progressive pattern of hearing loss, & tinnitus,,, it took almost 5 years for the V.A. to recognize it !!! If you have this & are close to dying,,,, good luck !
Acoustic trauma: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia
March 10th, 2010 04:20 PM
I remember one of the first times I went shooting with my Glock 19. I only wore ear plus I picked up at Walmart, they say were with the gun stuff...I started shooting, and realized it was loud, but wasn't used to it...kept shooting. shot 51 rounds and stopped. Read the box of the plus again....only a rating of 26, with bold letters. "NOT RATED FOR GUN FIRE".
I don't know if there are still any effects from it. Now I just use Foam plugs, and its by far better. I'll pick up muffs before I goto the range again and use foam plugs and muffs.
March 10th, 2010 04:20 PM
Weapon caliber: 7.62x39 out of an SKS
Number of shots fired: 5
Little ringing for like 45mins.
If I did, it's not noticible.
March 10th, 2010 09:40 PM
+1 though not experienced from the situation asked, however, someone shooting over your head, or for any reason in close qtrs to include an over head causes these problems as well.
Originally Posted by QKShooter
March 14th, 2012 04:32 PM
Hearing loss occurs when one or more parts of the ear are damaged. The membrane that receives sounds and converts them into vibrations may be damaged. This means that the membrane is likely to be less responsive to sound vibrations.A person with this type of problem will suffer from impaired hearing.
March 14th, 2012 05:23 PM
Believe it or not, a .22 revolver was end-all for me. Went to an outdoor range when stationed in Alaska and was shooting using a wood plank over an empty 55 gal. drum as a table. No hearing protection. The drum made the shots louder (echo?) and my ears have never stopped ringing since.
Prior to that I used to play drums in a rock band and had fired a 12 guage without hearing protection once. My USAF job put me out on the flight line around C-141s for a few years as well.
I now have substantial high-frequency hearing loss...
US Air Force, 1986 - 2007
"To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them..." George Mason
March 14th, 2012 06:02 PM
what did you say; I can't hear you
You can't hear the shot because you hearing gets impearled like if you are hunting. Most hunters will tell you they hardly hear the shot. Firing a gun in a defensive situation is the same way the mind shuts it out.
I read an article one time that said that loud shots from others are either never heard or very remotely in a gun fight
this is a good read: What Really Happens In A Gunfight?
March 14th, 2012 10:03 PM
I also played drums in a band for 6 years and wore ear protection 60% of the time. Wore during practice but not during performances. Hearing is all good!
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March 14th, 2012 10:15 PM
Interesting. I can fire my 9mm carbine with 16" bbl with no hearing protection and it is hardly noticeable. However, I don't dare fire my compact 9mm pistol with 3" bbl without both ear plugs and a headset. Don't know how that translates between 3" and 6" bbls tho.
Originally Posted by SR9
March 14th, 2012 10:45 PM
Shot a .22 revolver a few years ago with no hearing protection. probably 50 rounds. My left ear is still ringing. I can't hear high pitched sounds in my left ear and noise is muffled.
March 15th, 2012 07:36 AM
One round 9mm. Close quarters indoor. Temporary impact. (15 min) no residual effect.
March 15th, 2012 08:39 AM
Hearing loss is something I'm pretty concerned about. It's actually a fairly expensive problem, because we currently cannot regenerate hearing ability in mammals. In kids, especially, it can be devastating, because it makes it harder to learn.
What I'd like to see is a prophylactic for those who're likely to be involved in shooting. Something to take before you go to the range. There's no way to be prophylactic in a SD setting, so we should find nutraceuticals that are either beneficial to take long-term or nutraceuticals that can be taken immediately afterwards.
It looks like melatonin can also help (though those poor rats were exposed to 120 dB for 4 hrs)
An experimental comparative study of dexame... [Acta Otolaryngol. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI
(btw, PUBMED is awesome. I highly recommend learning how to play around in this free database of scientific biology reports. Being published in PUBMED is the way that scientists get credit for their work)
I found one study (conducted in Turkey) that used actual gunshots to give NIHL to the guinea pigs!
Protective effects of pentoxifylline and nimod... [Otol Neurotol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
Originally Posted by Gearforears
The solution to this is to fund the discovery of a cure. It also reduces the total amount of family that has to go through it.
March 15th, 2012 09:20 AM
Had a 45 ACP go off true AD in a bathroom 1 shot,muffled boom and had no problem with my hearing afterward
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March 15th, 2012 09:48 AM
During the 60's I was subjected to a number of weapon's without ear protection. M14, M16 30 cal machine gun and the one I remember the most was a bazooka. 40% hearing loss and constant ringing in both ears. No cure for the ringing they say just have to ignore it if possible.
, Beretta PX4 SC .40, Ruger LCP/LM, Dan Wesson .357, Beretta 21A .22, Four Aces .22, H&R .22, Marlin .22 rifle and 1946 Remington 12 gauge.
March 15th, 2012 09:54 AM
the vitamin E is a jell capsule and you don't take it...
you stuff it in your ear b4 you fire.
i've discharged 380's once inside....lot of ringing but could hear them cussing my untanned behind
and outside was just a loud noise.
years later i have tinnitus. co-incidence?
and chewing gum is also effective--
once as 3 ut were trying to jack me, i had my left hand in my vest pocket holding a 642, i took the
chewing gum out of my mouth and put part in one ear and as i was doing the second ear one of them asked
what i was doing...id hardly mentioned the noise my gun was going to make before they were off to parts unknown.
You plug 'em, I plant 'em
...kid can't read at 17 (Garcia/Hunter 1985)
Lack of preparation on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on mine
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