Defensive shooting and hearing loss.

This is a discussion on Defensive shooting and hearing loss. within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; My civilian audiologist & the V.A.'s call it, " Accoustic Trauma." Even with all military records, my V.A. Dr's reports, hearing tests over the years ...

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    My civilian audiologist & the V.A.'s call it, " Accoustic Trauma." Even with all military records, my V.A. Dr's reports, hearing tests over the years showing a progressive pattern of hearing loss, & tinnitus,,, it took almost 5 years for the V.A. to recognize it !!! If you have this & are close to dying,,,, good luck !

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    I remember one of the first times I went shooting with my Glock 19. I only wore ear plus I picked up at Walmart, they say were with the gun stuff...I started shooting, and realized it was loud, but wasn't used to it...kept shooting. shot 51 rounds and stopped. Read the box of the plus again....only a rating of 26, with bold letters. "NOT RATED FOR GUN FIRE".

    it sucked.

    I don't know if there are still any effects from it. Now I just use Foam plugs, and its by far better. I'll pick up muffs before I goto the range again and use foam plugs and muffs.

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    Weapon caliber: 7.62x39 out of an SKS

    Number of shots fired: 5


    No

    Little ringing for like 45mins.

    If I did, it's not noticible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Plan on hearing loss, permanent damage & ear ringing.
    You can take info as a First Hand account.
    +1 though not experienced from the situation asked, however, someone shooting over your head, or for any reason in close qtrs to include an over head causes these problems as well.

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    Hearing loss occurs when one or more parts of the ear are damaged. The membrane that receives sounds and converts them into vibrations may be damaged. This means that the membrane is likely to be less responsive to sound vibrations.A person with this type of problem will suffer from impaired hearing.

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    Believe it or not, a .22 revolver was end-all for me. Went to an outdoor range when stationed in Alaska and was shooting using a wood plank over an empty 55 gal. drum as a table. No hearing protection. The drum made the shots louder (echo?) and my ears have never stopped ringing since.

    Prior to that I used to play drums in a rock band and had fired a 12 guage without hearing protection once. My USAF job put me out on the flight line around C-141s for a few years as well.

    I now have substantial high-frequency hearing loss...
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    what did you say; I can't hear you

    You can't hear the shot because you hearing gets impearled like if you are hunting. Most hunters will tell you they hardly hear the shot. Firing a gun in a defensive situation is the same way the mind shuts it out.

    I read an article one time that said that loud shots from others are either never heard or very remotely in a gun fight

    this is a good read: What Really Happens In A Gunfight?

    http://www.forcetactics.com/parts/me...A_Gunfight.pdf

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    I also played drums in a band for 6 years and wore ear protection 60% of the time. Wore during practice but not during performances. Hearing is all good!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    I've been wondering if there would be enough difference in decibels between a compact handgun (say anything below a 4" barrel) and a long barrel in the same caliber around 5 or 6" to make it worth carrying one...

    I remember reading a post about how the NRA advertised some type of hearing pill that a lot of people felt was a ripoff (probably without trying it). Wonder if it's a combination of something like mentioned in this thread.
    Interesting. I can fire my 9mm carbine with 16" bbl with no hearing protection and it is hardly noticeable. However, I don't dare fire my compact 9mm pistol with 3" bbl without both ear plugs and a headset. Don't know how that translates between 3" and 6" bbls tho.

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    Shot a .22 revolver a few years ago with no hearing protection. probably 50 rounds. My left ear is still ringing. I can't hear high pitched sounds in my left ear and noise is muffled.

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    One round 9mm. Close quarters indoor. Temporary impact. (15 min) no residual effect.

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    Hearing loss is something I'm pretty concerned about. It's actually a fairly expensive problem, because we currently cannot regenerate hearing ability in mammals. In kids, especially, it can be devastating, because it makes it harder to learn.

    What I'd like to see is a prophylactic for those who're likely to be involved in shooting. Something to take before you go to the range. There's no way to be prophylactic in a SD setting, so we should find nutraceuticals that are either beneficial to take long-term or nutraceuticals that can be taken immediately afterwards.

    It looks like melatonin can also help (though those poor rats were exposed to 120 dB for 4 hrs)
    An experimental comparative study of dexame... [Acta Otolaryngol. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI
    (btw, PUBMED is awesome. I highly recommend learning how to play around in this free database of scientific biology reports. Being published in PUBMED is the way that scientists get credit for their work)

    I found one study (conducted in Turkey) that used actual gunshots to give NIHL to the guinea pigs!
    Protective effects of pentoxifylline and nimod... [Otol Neurotol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Gearforears View Post
    Hearing loss occurs when one or more parts of the ear are damaged. The membrane that receives sounds and converts them into vibrations may be damaged. This means that the membrane is likely to be less responsive to sound vibrations.A person with this type of problem will suffer from impaired hearing.
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    Had a 45 ACP go off true AD in a bathroom 1 shot,muffled boom and had no problem with my hearing afterward
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    During the 60's I was subjected to a number of weapon's without ear protection. M14, M16 30 cal machine gun and the one I remember the most was a bazooka. 40% hearing loss and constant ringing in both ears. No cure for the ringing they say just have to ignore it if possible.
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    the vitamin E is a jell capsule and you don't take it...
    you stuff it in your ear b4 you fire.

    i've discharged 380's once inside....lot of ringing but could hear them cussing my untanned behind
    and outside was just a loud noise.
    years later i have tinnitus. co-incidence?

    and chewing gum is also effective--

    once as 3 ut were trying to jack me, i had my left hand in my vest pocket holding a 642, i took the
    chewing gum out of my mouth and put part in one ear and as i was doing the second ear one of them asked
    what i was doing...id hardly mentioned the noise my gun was going to make before they were off to parts unknown.
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