Defensive shooting and hearing loss.

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    Defensive shooting and hearing loss.

    I know this is considered a borderline rude question to ask so I知 applying some strict parameters to my question. I知 looking for people who have been involved in a shooting either in close quarters, indoors or some other confined space. I want to know very specifically

    Weapon caliber

    Number of shots fired

    Did you experience auditory exclusion?

    After the adrenalin rush did you experience deafness?

    And finally did you suffer permanent hearing loss as a result ?

    I have never fired a weapon in close quarters but 10 years as a 13B has left a very definite mark on my hearing and I never remember that cannon being that loud when I was right next to it.

    I had a ND in a bare concrete room when I was 12 and I still rememebr how loud that .25 sounded.

    Several years later my roomate's girlfriend decided to unload her .38 into our kitchen wall and the shots sounded like pop gun fire. My other roomate actually yelled at her to keep it down because he was trying to sleep.

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    Weapon caliber- 40

    Number of shots fired- 4

    Did you experience auditory exclusion? yes

    After the adrenalin rush did you experience deafness? not deafness, but things were muffled.

    And finally did you suffer permanent hearing loss as a result ? Very slight.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    And finally did you suffer permanent hearing loss as a result ? Very slight.
    Just for the record did you have an audiogram?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    Just for the record did you have an audiogram?
    Yes, I get one done yearly due to my job. I had one done roughly 6 months prior and after.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    I know this is considered a borderline rude question to ask so I知 applying some strict parameters to my question. I知 looking for people who have been involved in a shooting either in close quarters, indoors or some other confined space. I want to know very specifically
    There is some interesting research being carried out by the NIH (National Institutes of Health) and the military that indicates NIHL (Noise Induced Hearing Loss) can be ameliorated by taking some anti-oxidant nutrients post incident.

    Based on this research, I carry on my key chain a capsule containing aspirin and vitamin E.

    For those who will be exposed to loud noise and wont wear ear protection (think teenager going to a concert) taking these nutrients may have prophylactic benefits.
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    My most recent audiogram showed major hearing loss but to be fair I worked several years in a machine shop post Army. Although I was very scrupulous about wearing my hearing protection then.

    One of the concerns I wanted to address in asking this question was (god forbid) you're in a shooting say in your home will you be able to hear the police?

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    2 times I used my sidearm neither where 2 legged threats.



    Weapon caliber = 380ACP

    Number of shots fired = 6

    Did you experience auditory exclusion? = Some

    After the adrenalin rush did you experience deafness? = No but had slight ringing.

    And finally did you suffer permanent hearing loss as a result ? = I don't know




    Weapon caliber = 45ACP

    Number of shots fired = 1

    Did you experience auditory exclusion? = Yes

    After the adrenalin rush did you experience deafness? = No but things where muffled like Sixto said.

    And finally did you suffer permanent hearing loss as a result ? = I don't know
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    Yeah, you should be able to hear people talking fine. I just had a little ringing for a few hours.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowardCohodas View Post
    Based on this research, I carry on my key chain a capsule containing aspirin and vitamin E.
    I'm going to do that. Couldn't hurt right
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowardCohodas View Post
    There is some interesting research being carried out by the NIH (National Institutes of Health) and the military that indicates NIHL (Noise Induced Hearing Loss) can be ameliorated by taking some anti-oxidant nutrients post incident.

    Based on this research, I carry on my key chain a capsule containing aspirin and vitamin E...
    Howard please post a link(s) so that the rest of us can review and gain same knowledge.

    Thanks!

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    .223, 9mm, 12 gauge

    hundres of 223, hundreds of 9mm, 25? 12 gauge

    no

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    We inherited some land way down in the hills of Ky. My brother in law and some friends and I went down there to tear down the old farmhouse on the property. We took our weapons to do some shooting, but it was raining, so we knocked out the front window and shot out from inside the house.

    Had alot of fun, sure it was loud, but I still hear fine now 10 years later. I think that it would not be a concern in a self defense situation.

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    Fairly close quarters. [ jungle ]
    Ammo fired, everything , 5.56, 7.62, .50, & 90mm tank fire.
    Some deafness after firing, but mostly ears ringing for weeks.
    About 15% hearing loss at next exam
    Hearing has decreased steadily from it over the years. Now am 70% deaf.
    V.A. helps out.

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    There is no auditory exclusion firing through a windshield from inside a closed vehicle.
    Plan on hearing loss, permanent damage & ear ringing.
    You can take info as a First Hand account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    Howard please post a link(s) so that the rest of us can review and gain same knowledge.

    Thanks!

    - Janq could have used this knowledge 8 wks. ago
    I apologize. I intended to, but got distracted.

    Noise-Induced Hearing Loss - National Institute on Deafness and other Communication Disorders

    What research about NIHL is being conducted?

    The National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders (NIDCD) researches the causes, diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of hearing loss. Most hearing loss is caused by damaged hair cells, which do not grow back in humans and other mammals. NIDCD-supported researchers have helped to identify some of the many genes important for ear development and hearing; they have also been studying the possibility of using gene therapy to regrow hair cells in mammals.

    NIDCD researchers also are investigating a potential way to prevent NIHL after noise exposure. Noise exposure triggers the formation of destructive molecules, called free radicals, which cause hair cell death. Researchers initially had thought that antioxidants幼hemicals that protect against cell damage from free radicals洋ight prevent NIHL only if the antioxidants were given before noise exposure. In a recent study, however, the antioxidants in salicylate (aspirin) and Trolox (vitamin E) were given to guinea pigs as long as three days after noise exposure and still significantly reduced hearing loss. These results suggest that there is a window of opportunity in which it is possible to rescue hearing from noise trauma. NIDCD-funded researchers are now testing the ability of nutrients, such as vitamins and minerals, to prevent NIHL in military personnel and college students.
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    Where does it state what one should take to help this hearing loss?
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    Im a big fan of the .22LR for bear defense.
    Just shoot the guy next to you in the knee and run like heck.

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