Wife understands dangers of society..
This is a discussion on Wife understands dangers of society.. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Patti
The only thing worse than asking your name, is asking your phone number. Anybody standing close by can hear it.
March 17th, 2010 09:04 AM
Years ago I had a pager (remember them?).
Originally Posted by Patti
Anybody in the retail trades that insists on having a phone number attached to my name gets the old pager number.
BTW, whenever retail places insist that they need to enter a name in their computer system, along with a phone number (see above) I tell them my name is Cash, Petty Cash. Either that or I'm Cash Customer. The one time I got the because the name on the credit card did not match what I just told them to put in the computer, I explained that the name on the card was because I was in the Witness Protection Program. If they say they need a ZIP code I ask them what the ZIP code for the store is and to put that in.
March 17th, 2010 10:22 AM
That is kinda creepy... Whatever happened to guys walking up to just talk to woman? Now its all these dating sites and facebook... little to no hunting required... wheres the fun in that. Sorry off topic here...
I may be single but I know enough to not leave notes on a lady's car.
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March 17th, 2010 10:27 AM
I'd be wary of this for 2 reasons:
Originally Posted by BugDude
1) Unless you call from a 3rd party line or block your phone number, he has your number. Something he didn't have before.
2) Odds are it was just a guy looking for a date... however dumb his method is. (What woman is gonna go for that?) I would be extremely cautious, but I think saying you have a "full blown stalker" on your hands is quite a stretch. By initiating contact, you might turn a regular guy with bad pick-up moves into an angry guy who might remember what your wife and her car look like.
Just my $.02... (Amazing how opinions aren't affected by inflation.)
Oh, and as for the trouble with racking the slide, I'd give it some time. My girlfriend couldn't rack any slide of the guns we looked at, but now she has no issue. I think the biggest factor is the "fear" or "cautiousness" she had. She would treat it like it was glass and didn't want to break it. Quite cute really.
March 17th, 2010 11:58 AM
I havn't had a chance to call him, so therefore I'm not going to. I had planned on calling him from a pay phone so he doesn't obtain our home number, but since I did not get the time to do it "immediately", I kinda feel as "BlueNinjaGo" stated that odds are he was just some guy looking to meet a woman but has bad pick-up moves and turn "into an angry guy who might remember what (my wife) and her car looks like."
We live in a pretty small town, and his number is an in-town number, so he probably lives within a 5 mile radius of us. He could very easily cross paths with her or us at any of the local stores again in the future.
Just like when your dog pee's on the floor, you correct him immediately, not 5 minutes later. Since I didn't call this fool immediately, it's probably best to just leave it alone, and just stay alert and make sure she does too. If we have any further issues with him, turn the note over to the police along with information about the events that transpired and go from there.
She did manage to rack the slide of my Bersa Thunder .380 the other night (barely).
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March 17th, 2010 12:27 PM
I am sorry that your wife needed to experience something like that. Hopefully, she will soon get her CHP.
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March 17th, 2010 12:40 PM
The guy would definitely get a call from me, calm and firm that she is unavailable. I’d also make sure that she is packing as soon as is legal.
I would do everything possible to track down the owner of the number and find out who the guy is.
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March 17th, 2010 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by MP45Man
Don't let your wife's blissful ignorance stop you from teaching your kids about SA and real life. Once they learn about the dangers surrounding them, it will keep them safe and maybe they will help you to keep your wife safe.
Also, your wife will listen to your children more than you, so they can teach her even if she hasn't changed her mind.
March 17th, 2010 01:28 PM
It sucks that she got the note on her car but...
On the bright side, she is getting serious about hers and your safety. I wish my girlfriend would take it more seriously. I got her a pepper spray and she almost laughed it off like "what do you think people are looking to attack me." I of course tell her no, I doubt anyone else is plotting some attack as we speak but wouldn't you rather be more prepared in case someone does.
Though she does carry the pepper spray, I think that I am a long way off from convincing her to carry a gun. I thought that maybe the new Rasberry LCP would do the trick b/c its "cute." But no luck yet.
March 17th, 2010 02:26 PM
Oh sorry I left that note on your wife's car she just looked so hot going into the store
Just kidding of course, it sounds like she did the right thing but honestly I feel you are overreacting a little bit. The guy states in his own note he doesn't want to intrude if she's married, just let it go and use it as an example as to why she should always be alert.
Oh and view it as a complement, some creepy guy who doesn't even know your wife thinks she's attractive enough to leave a note, thats a damn good self-esteem booster.
March 18th, 2010 03:40 PM
I agree on all counts have her try a snubbie
Originally Posted by retsupt99
March 18th, 2010 04:13 PM
I can understand why the OP's wife would be worried however I donít think a letter on the windshield is that big of a deal. About 3-4 months ago I was driving through town and passed a couple of cute girls (they looked like they were 18-19 years old) in a red car. They waved at me as I drove past and then got behind my truck. When I stopped at an antique store for about thirty minutes I walked back to my truck to find a note with a girls name and phone number asking me to call her. Being a married man I tore the note up with a grin and went on my way.
The point of my long post is this, this guy could have seen the OP's wife get out of her car and thought she was attractive and left her a note. I would think that if he was a creep or stalker then he would have been standing around the car or sitting back and just watching her. Just my 2 cents.
PS. I thought it was pretty cool that he even wrote that if she was married he wasnít interested.
March 19th, 2010 11:28 PM
You might also try doing a reverse trace on the number through Google (just enter the (###) ###-#### and let 'er rip) to get HIS address, (though I'd keep that little nugget of information to myself...) but I'd strongly consider contacting law enforcement and doing a report, if for no other reason to establish an official record that the incident occured if there is a second incident. I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's a dorky looking dude wearing a "Vote for Pedro" shirt, though...
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March 20th, 2010 01:34 AM
Some people just don't get it.
Originally Posted by rammerjammer
Years ago my exwife would leave her car unlocked at the hospital where she worked. What did she leave in the front seat? You guessed it..... Her handbag.
I tried to talk sense into her but she never got it. One night when I stopped by for a visit I took her handbag when I left. Instead of making a point all I managed to do was P her off. Oh well!
March 20th, 2010 04:53 AM
Now that was just a little creepy. Not yet a stalker, yet a very bold move for someone to just up and do. Place a note on a strangers car saying she's hot and would like to hook up with her knowing full well when he left it that she obviously has no clue what he looks like. Why would anyone expect a woman to call them back based on a note of that nature.
The clue that bugs me is why didn't he just approach her and ask her out face to face if he was interested her based solely on that one time view of her.
This isn't even in the same realm of seeing a stranger in a bar, being attracted to them and having the bar tender send them a drink. In that scenario, you expect the bar tender to point out who the person was who bought them the drink and thus allowing the person to at least look at them and then respond from there based on the persons reaction to the one who bought them the drink.
This is a guy who spots a "target", knows full well the "target" was oblivious to their presence and leaves a creepy "come on" note on their car, and really thinks a woman is going to go "Okay, I'll call him back and hook up for a date!"
Again, kind of a creepy approach. You can't really say he's stalking her yet, but like others have said. He knows what she looks like, he knows her car and (more than likely, knows her license plate number... You think he didn't bother to write it down?) plus he knows where she shops. She knows absolutely nothing about him! Just a phone number, which may or may not even lead back to a place of residence if it were traced or even his real name.
Man that sends so many red flags, it isn't even funny!
Now you have an excellent opportunity to capitalize on this situation regarding personal safety. Trust me, so many men have problems with their wives regarding guns, self protection, personal safety and all that. You have a wife who not only got spooked real good, but is very receptive to the ccw aspect and really enjoying her first experience with shooting.
You need to drive on full speed ahead and both of you should immerse yourselves in getting up to speed with teaching her about situational awareness, risk analysis and threat assessment and continue to add other tools to your defensive tool boxes. It's great she already has OC spray, and has applied for ccw permit and been shooting a few times and already taken a class.
Just don't let her enthusiasm wane. Get her up to speed as quickly as possible and continue to lead long and happy lives.
Also beware that this note on the car incident is over. Hopefully it is, but she needs to be acutely aware when out and about for the foreseeable future. Not only when out of the house, but also when at home. Be alert for things suddenly out of the ordinary while at home.
Also, she and you both should practice and learn a little bit about simple and basic "counter-surveillance" techniques and learn how to tell if you are being followed home or not. Right now he knows where she shops, so she should be particularly alert whenever she visits that same place again and try to pick up on someone paying undue attention at that location or leaving the same time she does. Best thing is to find a new store to shop, but not everyone want's to do that if they have a real favorite store.
Anyway, thanks for posting that experience and good luck in the future. I'm glad your wife has been so receptive to carrying a gun. But don't stop there. Capitalize on your good fortune in finding such a great wife.
Keep us posted if anything else develops from that note on the car issue.
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March 20th, 2010 07:44 AM
If I were a woman, I would have gotten into the car and driven straight to the police department and reported it. Can't be TOO safe, you know! Today's world is not the same anymore.
Also, tell your wife never to have less than 1/4 tank of gas in the car in case of a true emergency where a getaway is needed. I always hope that my wife follows this rule; but, I don't think she does!
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