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    I got an entry level separation, and if the FBI back ground check was thorough they saw I got an Article 15 in Basic, and I had no problems. Of course I live in Texas, but you stated your county was pro CCW.

    As others have said, call them up and check. This way you can explain your OTH discharge and see what they say.
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    Still, I'd petition to change that discharge to G under H cond's...........there well may be other times in your life ahead where you just DON'T want to have to continually explain yourself.

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    I know of law enforcement agencies that take OTH. There is also a three letter code that states the reason for your discharge. That could disqualfy you as well.
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    Other than honorable is not the same as "dishonorable".

    True; but, it depends on what it was for. Only you know what for since most other licenses can even be given to a dishonable discharge.
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    thanks for all your replies.
    i have not purchased a firearm. all 8 of mine were christmas presnets and my dad clearing out his safe. my fear is the reviewing officer having a personal grudes. i figure if the DOJ let me work around teens. id be ok legally. my dad has pushed me for years to up grade my status. guess today is the big "I TOLD YA SO" i WILL GIVE THEM A CALL. My pops is going to put one of his guns in my name for the permit application. my conceled carry purchace would be different than if i get denied.
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    In general, DDs and BCDs are stoppers.

    General, Administrative, Undesirable and Unfit For Service are generally not stoppers...

    At least that is what I have seen in practice.
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    Your state, Commiefornia is not easy to deal with as far as your gun rights. Other than Honorable would not disqualify you in many "shall Issue" states. Be advised that trying to get your discharge upgraded is usually a years long process. I worked in the same bldg once where this was done for one branch and it was next to impossible to get any discharge changed.

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    "The Gun Control Act (GCA) makes it unlawful for certain categories of persons to ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms. 18 USC 922(g). Transfers of firearms to any such prohibited persons are also unlawful. 18 USC 922(d).

    These categories include any person:

    * Under indictment or information in any court for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;
    * convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;
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    * who is subject to a court order restraining the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of the intimate partner; or
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    As a vet also, here in NC if you have a dishonorable you can't even buy a gun. I was amazed to see this when I purchased my shot gun. It simply asks if you are vet and then ask if you have a honorable discharge. Answer no, no boom stick.
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    The form asks if you have been discharged under dishonorable conditions, not whether you had anything other than an honorable discharge. There are levels between.
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    I also was (oth discharged) from the military back in 1982 because it just wasnt for me. It did not cause any problems with my CCW and I, Live in New York State one of the hardest states to get an CCW I also have my Pennsylvania License to carry Firearms Permit and my Florida Non-Resident Concealed Weapons Permit Good Luck To You never had any problems with application process or Investigation Process All I can say is Honesty is your best way to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbit91476 View Post
    i was told that i can apply to have it changed to general under honorable conditions. but never had a reason to before today.
    These upgrades are not handed out as easy as some people think. You must prove that it was inequitable or improper.

    After serving over 24 years myself and being discharged honorably, I think these upgrades are a slap in the face to us vets that man up and do the right thing. Iím glad it is very difficult to upgrade a less than honorable discharge.
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    The DD214 you were issued will always be the same. What happens is that you are issued a DD215, corrcting your DD214. The only time I have ever heard of a DD215 being issued was to correct mistakes. The portion of the DD214 you would be concerned with is copy 4. The three main areas dealing with your situation are Character of Service, SEP Code and Recode. The three letter SEP Code gives the narrative for the reason for your separation. This is what tells what the separation was for. Even if the Charecter of Service is upgraded to General if the SEP Code is disqualifying for a owning a firearm or obtaining a permit, it would remain the same unless you proved it was incorrect.
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    Well said Sixgunner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixgunner View Post
    These upgrades are not handed out as easy as some people think. You must prove that it was inequitable or improper.

    After serving over 24 years myself and being discharged honorably, I think these upgrades are a slap in the face to us vets that man up and do the right thing. Iím glad it is very difficult to upgrade a less than honorable discharge.

    Agree 100% well said........

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