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    the building is a public gathering so unless you stay 600+ft away from the building you are in violation
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmodel65 View Post
    basically no rest stops
    no govt building unless they are in a park...
    no church
    no political rallies
    Looks like you boys (and ladies) still have some work to do



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    can Open carry or Concealed carry
    I like that option, though I'm not sure I would OC often

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    the building is a public gathering so unless you stay 600+ft away from the building you are in violation
    This is just flat out stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    You can't CC in an I-75 rest stop in GA?
    Then I'm in a HEAP of trouble.
    But I-95 is OK,right???
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    I talked to a friend today who just moved from FL to GA for a job. He told me he was escorted out of a mall by the local PD, who told him he cold have been arrested, since the mall was a "Public Gathering". Seems he printed when he bent over and someone noticed and called. You all need to keep writing those politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    I talked to a friend today who just moved from FL to GA for a job. He told me he was escorted out of a mall by the local PD, who told him he cold have been arrested, since the mall was a "Public Gathering". Seems he printed when he bent over and someone noticed and called. You all need to keep writing those politicians.

    a mall is not a public gathering.....
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    After thinking about a Rest Area and the Public Gathering law, I still wonder if it applies to in car carry. In Georgia, you can legally carry loaded anywhere inside your vehicle without a permit, so Permit Specific laws do not necessarily apply to in vehicle guns.

    I'm wondering if the public gathering parking lot addon only applies to outside of your vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantoms View Post
    After thinking about a Rest Area and the Public Gathering law, I still wonder if it applies to in car carry. In Georgia, you can legally carry loaded anywhere inside your vehicle without a permit, so Permit Specific laws do not necessarily apply to in vehicle guns.

    I'm wondering if the public gathering parking lot addon only applies to outside of your vehicle.

    no it applies in your car also......

    Having a gun accessible in a car up to 200 yards away may violate the public gathering provision.
    Farmer v. State 112 Ga.App. 438 1965
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmodel65 View Post
    no it applies in your car also......

    Having a gun accessible in a car up to 200 yards away may violate the public gathering provision.
    Farmer v. State 112 Ga.App. 438 1965
    I did not see from that link where just having a weapon in a car is a violation. I saw this: "438 One who carries a deadly weapon under the seat of an automobile to a public gathering and after arriving takes the weapon from under the seat of the car and thus has it about his person at the gathering, is guilty of the offense defined in Code 26-5102.", but not just the fact of having it in the car.

    The only law I've seen restriction inside of your car is school property (in which if you are dropping off or picking up a student you are ok) and in a non public parking lot (of which most areas of a rest area are not).

    In addition, I would also expect that the federal interstate travel rules would allow a unloaded and secured gun in your vehicle when stopped at a rest area regardless.

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    Isn't this a great thread! If we could only get all of the different laws into one book that we could carry with us as we travel about. I think a small box truck ought to be about the correct size.

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    because the public gathering law say carried while at or to...read the back of your GFL....


    and i seriously doubt the fed law will help you because your not traveling your stopping at an off limits location....

    Revell v. NJ Port Authority, et al.

    This guy, Revell, had checked a firearm on a flight to Pennsylvania, where his carry license was legit. He was delayed, rerouted, put on a bus, cancelled, and found himself stranded overnight in the Newark, NJ airport. He got his luggage, stayed in airport hotel, and checked back in the next morning, at which point he was promptly arrested. It seems the federal firearm owners protection act only covers travel where you luggage is inaccessible. Once he retrieved his luggage in NJ, he was a criminal, whether he ever intended to be there or not. He spent 4 days in jail. The prosecutor dropped the charges, but it took him 3 years to get his gun back. The sued under section 1983 and lost. The 3rd Circuit panel says that he should have notified law enforcement at the airport and asked for his luggage to be held overnight for him. They recognize that the airport LEOs might not help, but they just hope LEOs wouldn't do that to an already unfortunate traveler (footnote 18).

    This is a classic case of screwed coming and going by the government and its silly laws.

    http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/092029p.pdf
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    From the Public Gathering Code
    (e) A person licensed or permitted to carry a firearm by this part shall be permitted to carry such firearm, subject to the limitations of this part, in all parks, historic sites, and recreational areas, including all publicly owned buildings located in such parks, historic sites, and recreational areas and in wildlife management areas, notwithstanding Code Section 12-3-10, in wildlife management areas notwithstanding Code Section 27-3-1.1 and 27-3-6, and in public transportation notwithstanding Code Sections 16-12-122 through 16-12-127; provided, however, that a person shall not carry a firearm into a place prohibited by federal law.
    Some of the Rest Areas meet the definition of a park or recreational area.


    All-in-all, this just goes to show how confusing and vague "Public Gathering" is to start with and why it needs to go.

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    you could argue that it was a park...but its not really....i have not tried carrying into the local park buildings here although i have on jekyll island
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    BTW, military personal, reservist, etc. are exempted from most of these laws

    16-11-130. Exemptions from Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128

    (a) Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect any of the following persons if such persons are employed in the offices listed below or when authorized by federal or state law, regulations, or order:

    (1) Peace officers, as such term is defined in paragraph (11) of Code Section 16-1-3, and retired peace officers so long as they remain certified whether employed by the state or a political subdivision of the state or another state or a political subdivision of another state but only if such other state provides a similar privilege for the peace officers of this state;

    (2) Wardens, superintendents, and keepers of correctional institutions, jails, or other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense;

    (3) Persons in the military service of the state or of the United States

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    yep also members of the Georgia State Defense force
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    HOLY OLD THREAD BATMAN!!!

    Came across this as I am going to be going to Georgia sometime next month to visit a friend. After having read this, I did some research on said "rest area" subject. Apparently SB308 took care of that.

    Georgia Carry : An information clearinghouse for Georgia Firearms License issues and news Frequently Asked Questions

    It's in the "Places off limits" section.

    Just figured I would let you all know.

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