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This is a discussion on Would you impersonate a police officer if.. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by TheGreatGonzo but the resonding LEO is then going to give you commands to get you away from it. Gonzo If hes is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatGonzo View Post
    but the resonding LEO is then going to give you commands to get you away from it.
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    If hes is able to give verbal commands to me with his/her pistol in hand then that is my que to cite that I'm a CWP holder. If I do put my pistol down, I my self need to make a mental note to take the mag out so I can maintain responsabilaty of my side arm. Thank you for that angle on the subject.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    Feel free to cite a single jurisdiction anywhere on the planet where claiming to be a police officer when you are not a police officer isn't illegal.
    So let me understand something. Your driving down the highway, you are fear of your life for some reason. Guy behind you is waving gun at you chasing you. You tell me your not going to break the speed limit to get away. Some states driving certain speeds can be treated as a felony. Remember even one mile over The speed limit is breaking the law!
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    I agree with OKShooter in that identifying yourself as a Police Officer is a felony in most States. Still, I have learned, to never say never. I use to be a LEO and those of you that are former LEO’s may know that old habits are hard. In a stressful moment we revert to our lowest level of training and I’m afraid that I could instinctively yell out the ‘P’ word before my brain could fully engage. Clearly, this would not be something I would do intentionally but still.

    In the abstract I suppose if it actually happened and I was forced to defend my actions, I would hope that my former credentials and tenure may help to justify any autonomic response.
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    Originally posted by rob99VMI04 Please show me a case were a victim of a crime on progress who was later let off for using lethal force was even charged for saying he was cop based on the scenario above.
    You're the one that made the statement it's up to you to prove it.

    Originally posted by Rob99VMI04 So let me understand something. Your driving down the highway, you are fear of your life for some reason. Guy behind you is waving gun at you chasing you. You tell me your not going to break the speed limit to get away.
    Strawman, speeding and pretending to be cop are two entirely different crimes.

    Again, there is a rule on this forum prohibiting encouraging illegal activity

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    He is not in Kansas anymore.

    Dixie Dude, This was not in Kansas at all. This was the Trolley Square shooting in Salt Lake City, Utah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    You're the one that made the statement it's up to you to prove it.



    Strawman, speeding and pretending to be cop are two entirely different crimes.

    Again, there is a rule on this forum ibitin.g encouraging illegal activity

    LOL, I'm sorry I don't see how its any different. There both violations of the law. Encouraging somebody to use a firearm in itself is in most states treated as a crime. I think in heat of the moment exspecially when I'm a victim I'm going to do anything to survive.
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    No way I'd suggest that I was "police".

    In this example, I need to instantly concentrate on not being a perceived threat by responding officers, and especially demonstrate open/empty hands. I don't want to be full of police bullets.

    In a similar case I would also be worried about being able to properly hear a officers commands. After some sort of shooting it's likely my hearing would be somewhat impaired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    You're the one that made the statement it's up to you to prove it.



    Strawman, speeding and pretending to be cop are two entirely different crimes.

    Again, there is a rule on this forum pr
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    I don't have to prove anything. First, I don't think there is a single case meets the criteria in op. Second being arrested dosn't mean guilty. If that was the case every senario on this forum which involved the victim being involved in a shooting would fit under your criteria of somebody encouraging somebody else to violate the law since most people involved in sd are arrested and charged. Hbut again we have courts which decide wether or not to convict.
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    I would think in most self defense scenarios, the shooting will be long done when five-o gets there on the scene, but in that offchance situation, when they arrive swiftly, its definitely going to be a tense situation.
    Hopefully there will be enough witnesses to verify what is going on, prior to the responders arriving, and jumping into the melee,-- as in someone telling the cops," hey that guy in the blue shirt and grey ballcap(as they point to you)Is the good guy and the bad guy is around the corner".
    If not ,well the day isn't going to be a walk in the park, but then just try to convey to responders that in fact you are the good guy,, and just hope it unfolds like a properly working parachute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIXIETWISTER View Post
    you were actively in a shootout with a mass murderer... And on duty Officers just arrived on the scene not aware of who the bad guy is...

    from Officer Ken Hammond who help stop a mass murder when he was off duty in a Kansas mall...............-----He is talking about another officer arriving on the scene.



    I think i would just have to shout POLICE In this situation, even though I am not one. I would deal with the consequences later.

    What do you all think???? here is the story Cop who*saved shoppers from shooter: I am not a hero - CNN.com

    Correction....

    Trolley Square Mall is in Utah, Off. Ken Hammond was an LEO on the Ogden City (Utah) PD.. He's since been removed from the force for very inappropriate behavior, but in my mind still a hero in the Trolley Square shooting..

    I live just minutes from Trolley. Glad he was there CC'ing.

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    I am with a County Sheriff's Office in Texas. Like others said, impersonating a peace officer is a felony. Bad Idea.

    If I was in plain clothes at a Mall, or anywhere and there is a BG w/a gun running around.
    Until I could safely get my credentials out to show responding officers, I would just yell at them, " I am a Deputy!! I need one more Core course to get my Intermediate Peace Officer License from TCLEOSE!!!", that way they will know I am an officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIXIETWISTER View Post
    you were actively in a shootout with a mass murderer... And on duty Officers just arrived on the scene not aware of who the bad guy is...

    from Officer Ken Hammond who help stop a mass murder when he was off duty in a Kansas mall...............-----He is talking about another officer arriving on the scene.



    I think i would just have to shout POLICE In this situation, even though I am not one. I would deal with the consequences later.

    What do you all think???? here is the story Cop who*saved shoppers from shooter: I am not a hero - CNN.com
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    No way.

    About as close as I would consider getting to this is to shout, immediately after the shooting and before the cops are even called... "POLICE! [someone call the] POLICE! [I really need someone to call the] POLICE!" (alternating loud and quieter voice). This is what my concealed carry instructor suggested, BTW.
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