Was I wrong?

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    Was I wrong?

    I was having dinner this evening up in Louisville at a Japanese place. I don't ever eat at the bar when carrying but this time I was eating at the Sushi Bar. About half way through the meal I realized that the other end of the Sushi Bar had a bunch of shelves with hard liquor/beer/etc. Not exactly a bar, but I guess it was the drink station/bar. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jensen47770 View Post
    I was having dinner this evening up in Louisville at a Japanese place. I don't ever eat at the bar when carrying but this time I was eating at the Sushi Bar. About half way through the meal I realized that the other end of the Sushi Bar had a bunch of shelves with hard liquor/beer/etc. Not exactly a bar, but I guess it was the drink station/bar. Thoughts?

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    You may have been in violation of the law ( I don't know what the law is wherever you were), but I wouldn't say you were "wrong".

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    In Texas a business with a red number 51 posted at the door is a place where a CC person can not enter armed with a handgun.

    It means 51% or more of the sales is from the sale of alcohol.
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    Your avatar indicates you are in California. Are you talking about Louisville KY? If so, then you cannot carry "in any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense beer or alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to that purpose."

    Is the sushi bar primarily devoted to sushi or dispensing alcohol?

    Since it is the bar area, I would err on the side of caution.

    If you are talking about Louisville CA, then I'm almost certain that civilian concealed carry is not permitted in restaurants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unloved View Post
    You may have been in violation of the law ( I don't know what the law is wherever you were), but I wouldn't say you were "wrong".
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    I'm in NY State, think it depends if the place is a restaurant or a tavern, but I ought to look that up.

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    Here in SC, it is based on the percentage of alcohol sold in the establishment. I like the way Texas notifies you "51". I have done the same thing wondering if I am I am in violation....but that has always been to pick up a to-go order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamlet View Post
    I'm in NY State, think it depends if the place is a restaurant or a tavern, but I ought to look that up.
    Bar, restaurant or tavern in not a problem in NY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubs View Post
    Here in SC, it is based on the percentage of alcohol sold in the establishment. I like the way Texas notifies you "51". I have done the same thing wondering if I am I am in violation....but that has always been to pick up a to-go order.
    I believe you are incorrect. SC has nothing in the law based on percentage of alcohol sold in an establishment. If it serves alcohol, the law says NO carry. Feel free to post a correction if the reference I've provided below is incorrect.

    SECTION 16-23-465. Additional penalty for unlawfully carrying pistol or firearm onto premises of business selling alcoholic liquors, beers or wines for on-premises consumption.
    In addition to the penalties provided for by Sections 16-11-330 and 16-23-460 and by Article 1 of Chapter 23 of Title 16, a person convicted of carrying a pistol or firearm into a business which sells alcoholic liquor, beer, or wine for consumption on the premises is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than two thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
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    I'm not sure what your laws are there but if it's legal, you're definetly not wrong. For my state, it's legal to carry into bars here in Colorado, you just can't drink. Hince the reason I'm normally the DD when we go out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubs View Post
    Here in SC, it is based on the percentage of alcohol sold in the establishment. I like the way Texas notifies you "51". I have done the same thing wondering if I am I am in violation....but that has always been to pick up a to-go order.
    Hubs.....Here in SC if the establishment sales ANY amount of alcohol for comsumption in the restaurant, it is illegal to carry.
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    Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamlet View Post
    I'm in NY State, think it depends if the place is a restaurant or a tavern, but I ought to look that up.
    Bosco beat me to it, but you are good in any private establishment, bar, restaurant that serves drinks, tarverns, brothels, places of worship, etc.
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    You would have been OK if you were in Kansas. You can carry into any place except State Offices, Courts, etc. unless it is "posted" with an approved Atty Gen signage ... including churches, bars, etc.

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    Yikes! That's the end of that! I always thought it was percentage-based. Thanks for the correction!
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