Seriously, what's the scoop on having to notify in Arizona?
Here is what the MSP website says
Proper Conduct During Encounters with Police
Responsibilities of Individuals With a CCW License:
An individual licensed to carry a concealed pistol who is stopped by a police officer (traffic stop or otherwise) while in possession of a pistol shall immediately disclose to the police officer that he or she is carrying a concealed pistol either on their person or in their motor vehicle.
Failure to disclose this information to a police officer carries the following penalties:
First offense = State Civil Infraction - $500 fine and 6-month CCW license suspension.
Second offense = State Civil Infraction - $1000 fine and CCW license revocation.
An individual licensed to carry a concealed pistol shall have the license in his or her possession at all times he or she is carrying a concealed pistol.
Failure to possess CCW license when carrying a concealed pistol is a State Civil Infraction and a $100.00 fine.
Upon request, an individual licensed to carry a concealed pistol shall show both of the following to a police officer:
His or her license to carry a concealed pistol
His or her driver license or personal identification card
Failure to show CCW license and Michigan driver license or Michigan personal identification card when carrying a concealed pistol is a State Civil Infraction and $100.00 fine.
A pistol carried in violation of numbers 1, 2, or 3 is subject to immediate seizure by a police officer.
If a weapon is seized for failure
It does not say that if you are NOT carrying that you must show
MSP - Proper Conduct During Encounters with Police
Heres the link for further reading
There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot.
Oklahoma you must notify carrying or not.
By State Guard you mean the state National Guard or something else? I ask because I am wondering why they would not run your plate. How would they know if the car was reported stolen or a BOLO on it if they did not run your plate?
It's a pistol in this ad from the 1870s
TITLE 21 § 1290.8. Possession of license required-notification to police of gun
POSSESSION OF LICENSE REQUIRED-NOTIFICATION TO POLICE OF GUN
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact that the person is in actual possession
of a concealed handgun pursuant to the authority of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act when the person first
comes into contact with any law enforcement officer of this state or its political subdivisions or a federal
law enforcement officer during the course of any arrest, detainment, or routine traffic stop. No person shall
be required to identify himself or herself as a concealed handgun licensee when no handgun is in the
person’s possession or in any vehicle in which the person is driving or is a passenger. ...
We are NOT required to notify, have to answer if asked, and the ONLY time you have to have your permit on you... is IF you are carrying.
I think it's purely stupid for people to carry a permit if they are not carrying.
What about military members or civilians (with their wallets, of course) who work on government installations and secure facilities who can NOT even have a firearm in their vehicle because they risk some pretty serious repercussions if they get caught? They randomly search vehicles, you know...
Are the many, many thousands of people in that category genuinely and "purely stupid", as you say, because they're not carrying and have their permits in their wallets, purses, etc? :rolleyes:
I'm happy that so much knowledge can be gained by surfing the internet. Almost as good as reading the daily paper. I recommend that you allow someone to pull legalish pdf's off of the internet and tell you how to conduct your life, in your own state, without doing your own homework and without concern. If you've been admonished for being incorrect, then you must be incorrect. Certainly accept the word from someone 400-500 miles away. It only seems reasonable.