This is a discussion on What is up with California? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by deadhawg The California coast is beautiful and worth the visit. CA 1, the Pacific Coast Highway, between Santa Barbara and Monterey is ...
As far as Fruits, Nuts and Flakes, I don't need to go to California, during my military travels, I've seen plenty in a lot of these other States and overseas and plenty right here in good ole Texas. I just came back from a convention in Austin last weekend, you want to talk about seeing fuits/nuts and flakes LOL.
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-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
The simplest way is a COM locking box. Put your unloaded pistol or revolver inside. Your loaded magazines or speedloaders can also go inside the COM box. Then lock it. The box can then stay inside the vehicle trunk or passenger compartment.
CA does not consider the glove box or center console as qualifying locking compartments for storage of firearms.
As long as your pistol does not have magazines with a capacity of exceeding 10 rounds (10 plus 1 total), you're good.
Remember, unlike about 40 other states, CA does NOT have RKBA in its state constitution. When SCOTUS renders its decision on MacDonald vs. Chicago, CA will immediately feel the effects, unlike states like TX, FL and VA which already have their stuff together. Seems in 1850, CA didn't want the Mexicans to have guns. Some things really haven't changed....
I enjoy visiting California and I know how to follow the laws concerning hand guns while traveling through. I wouldn't let the current laws in California stop me from enjoying the sites and activities there. There are places in NM and all over the country that restrict gun carrying too. Go have fun, but take deadhawgs advice.But, as you have found, California does not honor any other state's carry permits. You can have your pistol with you, but unloaded, ammo separate, locked in the trunk. Once you get to your motel or campground, you can have it loaded and ready in your room or campsite. No magazines over 10 rounds allowed though.
I haven't lost anything in California and never will. If I had wanted to visit a Communist country I would have done so when I was in West Germany several years ago. I'll just stay on this side of the border until reason resumes out there one day.
hey AAAAAArnooooddddd wake up!!!!!! maybe you should check out your percentage on murders, carjacks, robberies, etc...... compare to Vermont, Texas, Arizona and all the other 48 states that trusts their good law abiding citizens......to carry a gun to protect themselves and their love ones.
you do have nice weather... i'll give you that.
got to texas as fast as i could...Fuhgeddaboudit!
I didn't leave anything in Ca when I was out there in boot camp over 32 yrs ago so no need for me to go back to look for anything!
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Legal or not, you could be in for a very bad day. (LEOs in Kalifornia simply do not understand, much less tolerate, civilian carry of any sort, unless you are target practicing or hunting. Believe me, getting TREO-ized is not the funnest of things, and that would be the least you could expect there -- and if the LEO who stops you is a rookie, the results could be even more tragic).
Sounds like a nice place, I'll watch National Geographic Channel, I can see a good portion of California without having to go there in person.
I worked at a gun shop/shooting range part time for about 5 years in so cal. California considers a mag an extension of the firearm. If the mag is loaded but not in the firearm it is still considered loaded. Open carry has not been legal anywhere in the state in many years. When I travel back to visit family still there I always carry in the car. I obey the traffic laws and will always refuse an officer the ability to search my car. The best thing you can do is learn your rights and not let officers coerce you into allowing them to have their way with you. And most important remember that this is the left coast we are talking about.
Loaded open carry is legal in CA in counties with populations less than 200K. That covers rural areas dominated by ranches and farms. There are other restrictions like school zones, etc. But it is not completely illegal as you state.
As anywhere, it is always best to speak with local LE to confirm what the pertinent law is.
And carrying a loaded gun in your car as you travel in CA, without a CCW permit or as LEO, is at least a misdemeanor but can be a felony. If you're armed and have any "medical marijuana" on board, any ambitious cop will take you to jail in a felony bust. But some people may get off kissing the asphalt, pruned out next to their car.
When there are so many legitimate ways to stay safe and still armed, I think it is more productive to give solutions rather than ways to break the law.