This is a discussion on What is up with California? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Rivers A loaded magazine not inserted into a firing position in a firearm does not make the firearm loaded, according to judicial ...
Stay out of CA it might fall into the ocean and get a clean up soon.
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I like commiefornia but all those restrictions are an incentive to go anywhere else but....
Time to wake up and smell the coffee, oops, that's probably frowned upon too, isn't it?
In your defense, California is one of the most beautiful places in this country, I'll admit. But I still won't go there any more.
Generally speaking, gun enthusiasts from CA who remain in CA should be commended for sticking out the fight against Sacramento's anti-gun bias. Whether you (US citizens outside of CA) like it or not, CA and its laws, for better or worse, do influence the rest of the nation. Look at microstamping, for example. If it wasn't for the really smart guys in the pro-gun legal fight here, that law would have actually made a difference that we'd have to overturn in court, a costly time-consuming gamble. But the law is now written so it's more of a non-issue. Think of having an inevitable battle. Our side got the prize defined to something that was worthless, then lost a battle that we knew we couldn't win because of the liberal lawmakers. We lost something that was worthless. Yes, a win would have been a moral victory but we took what we could get. Without our fight and the issues raised in CA, how many other states would have enacted that stupid law? We hope to keep the lawmakers in check while getting the courts to overturn their previous efforts due to Constitutional issues thanks to the recent and upcoming SCOTUS decisions.
Some "misinformation" on the open carry of firearms in this thread too. You can openly carry and UNLOADED firearm inside "incorporated" areas in a BELT HOLSTER. You CAN have a loaded magazine/speed strip on your person while you do so. Do not go into "restricted zones" like courthouses or within 1000 ft of a school while doing so.
You can carry a LOADED firearm in an "UNincorporated" area (State/County land) so long as it is in a belt holster. This does NOT apply to National or State PARKS except in your campsite. You still cannot go into "restricted zones" AND/OR you cannot go into any area where the discharge of a firearm is prohibited while the weapon is loaded (but you can unload it and go there unless it's a "restricted zone").
You can have your firearm in the car with you so long as it is empty and locked up. A COM safe cabled to the seat is FINE (but DO NOT put the weapon in the console or glove box). You can still have the magazine on your person while driving. Alternatively you can lock the weapon up in the trunk (unloaded) but you don't need a separate locked box while doing so (soft gun case is fine here).
We had tons of rain this spring and the wildflowers are blooming big time. The grey whales are migrating north and there are lots of dolphins and other critters to see along the beaches. Come and enjoy nature's show.
Good job, Rob!
But I have to admit that holstering is not nearly as fun or interesting as Mexican carry. I guess we can always ask Plaxico how that worked for him.
I'd caution that any open carry in CA might bring unwanted attention. Personally, I'd refrain until the courts start slamming the existing laws and CA starts moving back to sanity. Like they say in The X-Files, "you have to believe."
Rob....you're right....I did have some good memories during my 9 week stay in your state.
Some good info in your post.
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BTW I liked San Diego, what little I got to see of it. The people seemed friendler than most residents of larger cities.
Noticed some funky smell going through El Centro, got sandblasted by high winds near Yuma, but all in all a good trip!
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