The Armed Citizen
This is a discussion on consolidated website....... within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; For the past few weeks, I have been having some very in-depth discussions with a co-worker of mine regarding carrying and firearms in general.. He ...
For the past few weeks, I have been having some very in-depth discussions with a co-worker of mine regarding carrying and firearms in general.. He is "pro-gun," but doesn't see the need to carry.. At first, it was a general thought that no one should carry.. But after a lot of discussions, it has turned into, some people can carry, but it really isn't for him.. He has recently turned to "what-if" scenarios regarding what I would do if x happened while carrying.. Like:
If someone comes up to your car with a gun drawn and demands your car.. What would you do?? Statistically, they say that you should just give them your car and you will be fine.. But if you have a gun, you will probably escalate it further then it needs to be..
My general answer to all of them is, "If it is a million to one odds, I don't want to be that one.. (with my luck, i generally am tho)"
Anyways, the discussions are very civil and we both learn from them and I really enjoy them..
Today he had mentioned that he spoke to his wife about it.. She apparently is an anti, but he mentioned that he was a lot more open to carry (my discussions are working).. He had asked me if I knew of any websites that had a listing of stories in where a someone had used a gun in a defensive scenario and it had saved their life.. I had showed him some NRA armed citizen articles but he wanted something a bit more "impartial".. I did some searches on google but apparently my google foo is lacking today.. I only found a few sites that contained one or two stories.. So, do you guys know of any sites that has a decent listing of semi-currently stories??
After talking to him today, I have a feeling that it is more for his wife then for him..
Thanks in advance guys (and gals)........
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Thanks AceHi.. I saw that one and showed it to him.. Was wondering if anyone else knew of anymore..
Thanks ret, I made a note of that one..
Point him to the section "In the News: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly" category on this site (link below). Many accounts of both armed & unarmed encounters with BG's. IMO, complying as a means of staying safe these days is no longer an option for me. WAAAAY too many accounts of store robberies, car jackings, home invasions where the victims fully complied & were shot or brutally attacked anyway.
Do a search of "clerk complied" on this site & you'll see what I mean. Leaving the fate of my life to the whims of a doped up BG is not an option in my book, but to each, his own. The defensive "Fetal Position" is not all it's cracked up to be.
Keep working on him & keep yourself safe.
Gun Free Zones are totally effective, and 100% safe ... (wait for it) ... (wait for it) ... until a bad guy with a gun shows up! Then suddenly, you have an uncontested Kill Zone of defensless sheep, patiently awaiting their turn for the slaughter.
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Have your say and let it go. Concealed carry: you either get it, or you don't. That's been my experience. I have been pleasantly surprised at the number of like-minded gun owners and carriers I have met the last year. Many of them are colleagues at work I would never have suspected.
The Utopians, unicorn herders, and rainbow huggers simply live in a different world. I am happy for them that they feel they can suspend reality.
It's also very important to understand there are also those people who simply make different personal risk decisions. There's nothing wrong with that, and being strident doesn't do our cause any good. I have lived 53 years without ever having the need to pull out a sidearm, and plan to make the next 53 the same. I always used my wits, kept a low profile, and made it a point to avoid trouble. I didn't change that philosophy once I started to carry.