Court Sides With Those Seeking Guns on Colorado University Campus

[Alf87]

Good news for students who have CHP's at Colorado University.

Court Sides With Those Seeking Guns on CU Campus

Court Sides With Those Seeking Guns on CU Campus
The Colorado Court of Appeals ruled in favor of a a group seeking to allow students with concealed gun permits to carry their weapons on campus.
Reporter: Associated Press


The Colorado Court of Appeals ruled in favor of a a group seeking to allow students with concealed gun permits to carry their weapons on campus.

Gun rights organization Students for Concealed Carry on Campus argued the 1994 CU policy banning concealed weapons from its campus violates state gun laws, particularly the Concealed Carry Act of 2003. The ruling revives a lawsuit that had been tossed out by a judge.

Attorney Jim Manley had argued that state law prohibits local governments from adopting laws limiting concealed carry rights. In a statement, Manley says the court vindicated the constitutional protection for the right to keep and bear arms.

CU officials say they're considering appealing the ruling to the Colorado Supreme Court.

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[surefire7]

Just read this in home newspaper, hope it continues to stay positive for guns on campus!

[BlueNinjaGo]

Instead of wasting money on lawyers, why don't the schools spend the money on "No Guns" signs. Those will keep all the nutcases out.

/sarcasm


I'm still upset that one guy in Texas stopped a law allowing CC on college campuses from being passed.

[Hiram25]

Well, they finally got one right!

[ccw9mm]

Attorney Jim Manley had argued that state law prohibits local governments from adopting laws limiting concealed carry rights.

CU officials say they're considering appealing the ruling to the Colorado Supreme Court.

Isn't it amazing? There's a specific statute denying municipalities and other state entities the authority to fiddle with firearms laws, and that the authority is reserved to the state legislature (preemption). And yet, the court itself and other state entities continue to mistakenly believe it doesn't apply. It's appalling what a paid shark can get done, in spite of truth and justice.

Kudos for Colorado citizens! May it help to make people safer and to even the odds a bit.

[Bark'n]

ccw9mm... Yeah, it's kind of like Congress governing against the will of the people. And individual congressmen being non-responsive to their constituents.

Are we not citizens instead of subjects? Isn't this a representative republic and not a Monarchy?

Makes you want to scratch your head and scream!

Congrats to Colorado... Let's hope the University don't waste the money to drag this all the way to the Supreme Court.

[MountainPacker]

Isn't it amazing? There's a specific statute denying municipalities and other state entities the authority to fiddle with firearms laws, and that the authority is reserved to the state legislature (preemption). And yet, the court itself and other state entities continue to mistakenly believe it doesn't apply. It's appalling what a paid shark can get done, in spite of truth and justice.

Kudos for Colorado citizens! May it help to make people safer and to even the odds a bit.

Colorado has a screwy circumstance there. CU, unlike other Universities in Colorado, is written into the state Constitution where authority is given to the board. Unless a law is written to specifically limit the authority of the board that state law doesn't apply to CU.

There was a case a while back about open records, where CU declined to provide them and they one on the basis that the law did not specifically mention it was intended to limit the authority of the board.

It could certainly be argued that preemption applies to CU as well, but it doesn't mention them by name which can make it kind of iffy here.

Don't punish the messenger. Personally, I'd prefer to carry on the rare occasions I happen through the campus.

I think the makeup of our Supreme Court is such that preemption will hold up anyway.

[ccw9mm]

Don't punish the messenger.

Huh??

Colorado has a screwy circumstance there. CU, unlike other Universities in Colorado, is written into the state Constitution where authority is given to the board.

You mean, the state preemption statute has an exemption that says it doesn't apply to Colorado University, and that the CU Board can write its own firearms-related law? That's strange. I can (barely) understand private properties (ie, my home, Johnnie's University) as being able to do the old trespassing thang), but beyond that it seems law must by definition remain in the purvue of the legislature, particularly if it has a preemption statute.

[Eagleks]

They are looking at a bill here, that if anyone "posts" a no guns sign ... they must provide security measures to protect anyone there, including schools.

Have my doubts it will make it, but it is getting good support and it's definitely making the "point".

[djz87]

My favorite comment of the day came off of 9news.com (Local news outlet).

Thyme wrote:
"College students are not mature enough to carry guns- maybe allow professors to carry them to protect their classes, but I’m against an 18 year-old with a concealed weapon, and I don’t care how many ‘hunter’s safety’ classes he or she has taken."




Yes, we reminded them the legal age to own/carry a handgun is 21.

[Sticks]

IIRC CSU is treated as an independent business, not a government facility.

They fall into the category of any other business in Colorado. Post all the signs you want and it means nothing unless you have the required security screening at every entrance and every person entering the facilities is screened.

In short, carry anyways. The difference is that if you get caught, you are either expelled (good luck getting into another school and kiss that tuition money goodbye) or terminated (if employed), rather than asked to leave/store the weapon elsewhere.

Regretfully, I don't think we have a chance of this latest ruling holding up.

Anyone caught carrying is not breaking any laws, only facility rules. Heck, the county Sheriff already stated that he would not charge any person caught legally carrying on campus after the Regents put the ban into effect.

[retsupt99]

Stay armed...'bout time...stay safe!