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    another example of how the press in general will report before the facts are known just to "get the story first"
    i see this all the time in south florida radio,tv,press all of them and on top of that they will sometimes put their on spin on things and and distort the story - it sickens me

    i would say though that i don't think i would have just opened fire on a flashlight but there is probably more to that story as well - i would hope the homeowner would make some kind of effort to identify his target
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    One of the MANY reasons I dont watch the news at all anymore. Too much bias and misinformation. After every news story come the opinions on the story. I dont need opinions, let me make my own. Just want facts and they get them wrong more than half the time. Only news I still look at is on weather underground.
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    There's plenty of bias in the media but I think this is a result of lazy writing. Usually a crime gone "bad" is when the results are even worse than what the criminal apparently intended for the victim. For example, when a kidnapping turns into murder because of the kidnapper's panic or ineptitude, or if a store clerk is shot and killed when the robber (presumably) only wanted the cash in the drawer.

    Something "gone bad" is a cliche phrase and gets universally applied to anything that turned out worse than it allegedly should have.

    The writer is a lazy moron, but not necessarily biased.
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    spot on explanation, jumpwing

    Quote Originally Posted by jumpwing View Post
    There's plenty of bias in the media but I think this is a result of lazy writing. Usually a crime gone "bad" is when the results are even worse than what the criminal apparently intended for the victim. For example, when a kidnapping turns into murder because of the kidnapper's panic or ineptitude, or if a store clerk is shot and killed when the robber (presumably) only wanted the cash in the drawer.

    Something "gone bad" is a cliche phrase and gets universally applied to anything that turned out worse than it allegedly should have.

    The writer is a lazy moron, but not necessarily biased.
    Spot on. Except I wouldn't want to call him names. He just did a poor job of writing. No bias.

    I read a local new article today about a man being captured by the police. He was said to be "hold" up; rather than
    "holed-up, " in his house. Holed up meaning literally hiding in a hole in the ground as when Saddam Hussein was captured.

    Just lazy writing.

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    I think it went perfectly fine......you know, if you are a mechanic one of the occupational hazards is getting dirt and grease on you as well as possibly getting burned by hot motor parts.....if a CPA, long hours during tax time, etc. etc.....so if you are a burgular...well dog bites and bullets are your occupational hazard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by harley2007 View Post
    I think it went perfectly fine......you know, if you are a mechanic one of the occupational hazards is getting dirt and grease on you as well as possibly getting burned by hot motor parts.....if a CPA, long hours during tax time, etc. etc.....so if you are a burgular...well dog bites and bullets are your occupational hazard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9MMare View Post
    In Chehalis, WA last nite (coincidentally also home to the Firearms Academy of Seattle), a home owner shot and killed a burglar.



    Police say a homeowner shot and killed a would-be burglar at a home in the 2000 block of State Route 508.

    I would bet it was because of the use of the words I highlighted.

    I guess its a bad thing to have any suspicion of someone entering your home, who doesn't belong there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Wing View Post
    What is a would-be burglar ????

    Liberal media stinks
    Well apparently they changed it.

    BUT, in the liberal medias mind, yes this buglary did go bad. In their mind anytime a disadvantaged individual who just wants to get ahead, gets killed by a gun wielding member of the elite class, it has gone bad.

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    The castle doctrine, at least in SC, says it all. "A person is presumed to have a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to himself if the person against whom the deadly force is used is IN THE PROCESS OF UNLAWFULLY AND FORCEFULLY ENTERING OR HAS ENTERED a dwelling." The heck with the press--the prosecutors get it right down here and decline any and all prosecution. Personally--I lock my bedroom door and, if burglarized, I will not go out of my bedroom to confront anyone who may be better armed and better trained than me (no one else in any part of my home)--that is why I have insurance on my "stuff", which is not worth my life. If they defeat my bedroom door, then they will be in for a very sorry experience. It may make the paper but it will never make it to court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo View Post
    I agree with you. You won't find an ounce of sympathy from me for that criminal. When you break the law, and enter someone else's house with intent to commit a crime, you have lost most of your rights IMO.
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    I would call it "a FAILED burglary attempt".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    The castle doctrine, at least in SC, says it all. "A person is presumed to have a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to himself if the person against whom the deadly force is used is IN THE PROCESS OF UNLAWFULLY AND FORCEFULLY ENTERING OR HAS ENTERED a dwelling." The heck with the press--the prosecutors get it right down here and decline any and all prosecution. .
    I hope that is the case here. All the facts havent been released yet...not sure if they will be.

    I do agree that if they didnt ID the burglar (flashlight in eyes) they should have but otherwise, it seems reasonable to me.

    And that is a really good question...if someone is breaking into your home and shines a light in your eyes (just as we would use as a tactic)....and you cant ID them, are you justified in shooting them? It would be very easy for the bg to do that and then shoot you.

    Maybe this would be a good one for the scenario section? I'm interested in opinions.
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    Originally Posted by jumpwing
    There's plenty of bias in the media but I think this is a result of lazy writing. Usually a crime gone "bad" is when the results are even worse than what the criminal apparently intended for the victim. For example, when a kidnapping turns into murder because of the kidnapper's panic or ineptitude, or if a store clerk is shot and killed when the robber (presumably) only wanted the cash in the drawer.

    Something "gone bad" is a cliche phrase and gets universally applied to anything that turned out worse than it allegedly should have.

    The writer is a lazy moron, but not necessarily biased.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    Spot on. Except I wouldn't want to call him names. He just did a poor job of writing. No bias.

    I read a local new article today about a man being captured by the police. He was said to be "hold" up; rather than
    "holed-up, " in his house. Holed up meaning literally hiding in a hole in the ground as when Saddam Hussein was captured.

    Just lazy writing.
    I didn't take it as name calling. More of a description if you ask me. The writing was lazy and moronic.

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    I guess it went bad because the poor guy probably has to buy some new carpet now. Carpet isn't cheap.
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