How do you handle family and friends that don't like you carry?

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    Keep quiet and keep them hidden, but ready to go and to reload on the road. This weekend, Mom and I drive down home to KY, with my Kel-Tec P-11 hidden inside the console of her LeSaybro'. My Ruger LCP will be hidden inside my small duffle bag with my underwear and toiletry kit, inside my motel room, ready to deliver some surprise and doom to invaders who attack. No reason to tell anybody about this, besides you, so let's just keep this a secret between us, okay? I do not need to brag or show off to kin, kids, family or friends.

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    Out of my family, my Dad and my uncle (former LEO) is the only one who is agianst my brother and I carrying. My Sister and B in law are joining us very soon. Some people just dont understand that because of ones occupation i.e Anesthesiologist with access to lots of cash serious drugs, a AF MP who has recieved many threats from radical leftist's or a legal professional who deals with shady clients on a daily basis, that a threat is very real. To those who ask, "Why cant you just fight fair?" I say, "Coz Id rather win and not the risk serious injury." Leftists know what Im saying when I say, "Be kind, courteous, and patient. But if another man lays a hand on you, you send him to his grave."---Malcolm X

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    Lie. Just say you got rid of your guns and permit, then make sure no one finds out the truth by concealing it right this time.

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    Honestly, none of my family or friends is anti-gun. Most are either military or law-enforcement, and guns have always been part of the life.

    The best approach is to keep quiet. Nobody needs to know that you’re carrying until the need (to draw) arises, but then we’re not talking about family or friends anymore.

    I’m sure this is, unfortunately, a real dilemma to some carry permit holders.

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    one issue is the places that need you to have a non relative character witness and/ or the signature off all adults that live with you.
    that can really limits your secrecy

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    Remember it is your right to carry. I say carry wherever you feel the need to do so, as long as it is legal. Carrying concealed is just that...no one is supposed to know you are armed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boradriver View Post
    So my question is how have you handled family and friends that are against guns?
    I carry open & concealed so lots of folks know I carry and could give a rats rear what they think about it. They keep that liberal crap out of my face, I'm not in the crap business. Those that don't like guns in their homes don't invite me over. If a reasonable person honestly wants to understand why I carry I often hand them this by John Conner


    Quote Originally Posted by John Conner
    If I had a nickel for every time I've been asked that question, I'd have, uh ... as many guns as his firearm-festooned Editorial Immenseness, Roy-Boy. It's been asked of me by all flavors of folks in all slices of society, with attitudes and expressions ranging from angry-arrogant to curtly-contemptuous, to brainless an' befuddled. My answers to it have sorta formed three phases in my professional gun-carrying life. During that first and longest phase, I answered all of 'era sincerely and articulately, often following up with stacks of historic and legal documents. After many years, I concluded only a semi-significant sliver of people even heard what I was sayin'. The rest had already made up their muddled minds.

    Finally, I just got sick of it, and moved on to Phase 2. If those asking seemed to have teensy open spaces in their minds, I gave 'em S & A: "Sincere & Articulate." The more harshly-bleating sheep, however, often got exchanges like this:

    "So," queried Snidely Snotworth III, lookin' down his unbusted but needed-bustin' nose, "Why do you think you have to carry a gun?"

    "Well," bellowed the Brutish Neanderthal (that would be me): "Because you're not QUALIFIED to carry one. You haven't got the skills, the judgment, the sense of responsibility, or the courage for it."

    This answer often popped out after I'd just returned from some Heart-Of-Darkness where every living soul knew that the difference between slaves and free people is having the means and determination to defend their lives, property and liberties. That meant having guns and guts and God-given rights. Most of those people would quite literally die fighting for the freedoms so many Americans casually give away, and proudly bear social responsibilities those sheeple * won't even recognize.

    * Sheeple: Sheep-like people, many of whom deny the existence of wolves, and vote to pull the teeth of the sheepdogs who protect the flock.

    The Voices

    Then I matriculated to Phase 3, where I started having some fun with the Snidely Snotworth types. When they asked the Big Question, I'd go all hunchy-shouldered an' secretive, then lean in close and mutter, "Because of the voices, ya know?" "The VOICES?" sniveled the Snidelies, suddenly scaredy-cattish. "Oh, yeah, the voices ... They told me to be, you know, prepared for when the killer clowns come ... " I'd furtively goggle around. "The voices say the killer clowns are comin' ... They're cannibals, some of 'era, and ..."

    About that time the Snidelies would be skitterin' away like mice on polished marble.

    Yeah, I know, the "killer clowns" answer might not have been "helpful," but it did just as much good as giving S&A answers to the sheeple, and it was a lot more fun for me. I know you already know why we carry these cannons. But sometimes, just sometimes, we all need a little reminder. That includes me, and I've got one to share with you. One that got me where I live.

    The Connor Clan has been nomadic, and we've lived in a number of places. In one of 'era, we shared a side yard and friendship with a young woman we'll call Miss Maine, and her knee-high daughter, Little Lizzie. Miss Maine quickly bonded with the Memsaab Helena. Clearly, Helena's Amazon-warrior spirit and skill with arms impressed Miss Maine mightily, and much of their time and talk revolved around that fierce self-confidence--and guns.

    As for Little Lizzie, the munchkin almost duct-taped herself to the Mem's leg. She followed Helena everywhere, but always, always, kept glancing back to check on her momma, as though she were the worried parent.

    There was something guarded, something hurt and defensive about both of them, and that fearfulness extended to me for a while. They got over it, thank God. Then I sorta became a moving bunker for 'em, representing cover and protection. Finally, we learned the story.

    Miss Maine had been attacked--brutally and viciously. You don't wanta know the details. As with so many such crimes, it wasn't really about sex. It was about hate and domination, cowardice and cruelty. And an even younger Little Lizzie had witnessed it. I like to think the Memsaab and I helped them to recover emotionally.

    Then one day Lizzie came and snuggled into my shadow, visibly disturbed. That morning her kindergarten had put on "Frighten The Munchkins Day." Some schools do a pretty good job of alerting children to predators--don't go with strangers and that kinda thing--but others do more harm than good. All they do is terrify the tots and give 'era no operating options. Lizzie already had twin tears glistening, ready to fall when she grabbed a tiny fistful of my trouser-leg and asked, "Connor-Sir, will you a'ways be here? Wouldja be here ... When the bad mens come?"

    My knees cracked on the sidewalk as she slammed into my shoulder, shaking with sobs as the hot tears came, splashing my neck and searing into my soul. "'Cause I'm a-scared!" she choked, and clutched me tighter. Oh, GOD/Who would not--who could not--fight without fear, suffer without sense of sacrifice, and kill or die deliberately, using the most effective means available--to protect life, liberty and a Little Lizzie? For God's sake, who?

    Those who would not are no better than the predators.

    Maybe in Phase 4, when somebody pops The Big Question I'll just smile and say, "For life, liberty and Little Lizzie." You guys can fill in the details.

    If they do not understand that than they are not people I want in my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent47 View Post
    unless you have friends who LOVE to hug/be hands on and you are carrying appendix (or let alone standard OWB)

    then what...?
    It is not some vile nasty little secret like child porn that needs to be hidden. Rather carry is a responsible honorable thing to do. If it really is a big deal to keep it secret keep your elbows down at your side they will have to hug you high away from your weapon. Me folks don't touch me I'm not the touchy freely type and as I've said could care less if folks know I carry
    Abort the Obamanation not the Constitution

    Those who would, deny, require permit, license, certification, or authorization for me to bear arms are as vile, dangerous & evil as those who would molest, abuse, assault, rape or murder my family

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    There ain't no law in Tennessee that requires me to inform people around me or my friends that I visit that I carry a handgun.

    So I don't!
    "It's time to nut up or shut up" - Woody Harrelson, "Tallahassee" in "Zombieland"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGP250 View Post
    I agree with you about carrying around little kids. They won't usually give you any trouble. You can dry fire right in front of them. I mean, what are they going to do?
    When I go to my sister's house I always take the gun off and put it on top of the fridge. The little ones play pretty rough with me and I am so worried that one of them is going to conk themselves in the head on it....LOL

    The first time I visited her house with my CCW she had no idea I carried. I simply mentioned that I was going to disarm and I unclipped the holster and put it oin the fridge. Her response? "Ok", end of it. They kids kept grabbing my around the waist and I really did not want to cause a black eye or cracked noggin.
    You may now carry on with your absurd non-directional bantering.
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    I've only been CC'ing a short time. But a couple weeks ago I was going somewhere with my brother-inlaw. I jumped in his passenger seat and he looked at me in shock and said "Are you packing?!". I said, you bet, and I showed him my cell phone on my belt on my left side. My IWB Kahr 40 was on my right side. We both laughed, thats crazy, carrying a gun.
    I was with him all day, he never had a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    So many people for some strange reason feel compelled to tell everyone whose house they enter, "Hey, I've got a gun... I hope you don't mind." When asked why they feel compelled to inform everyone, they usually have some comeback like it's because I have respect for them or whatever. However you want to rationalize it is fine.

    I go into so many peoples houses it isn't even funny, and no one goes, "Hey, you got a gun?"
    In the state of Arkansas, if you have a CHL and are about to enter someone's domicile, you are required to tell them that you are armed. To that end, you either leave the firearm in the vee-hickle, leave it at home if you know they don't like the idea of it being in their home or wear it in w/o telling them and then risk them finding out and filing a complaint against you.

    As for me, pretty much all of my family are firearm savvy. Most of my friends are the same. I doubt very seriously it'll be a problem w/any of them. The few for whom it will likely be a problem live out of state and I hardly ever see them, rarely ever in their own home. As such, shouldn't be a problem there, either.

    However, should the subject come up and/or they ask me to leave my firearm(s) in my vee-hickle/out of their home, I'll respect their wishes to the best of my ability. If they live in a high-risk area, I'd likely tell them it was great seeing them and leave, tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffworks View Post
    In the state of Arkansas, if you have a CHL and are about to enter someone's domicile, you are required to tell them that you are armed. To that end, you either leave the firearm in the vee-hickle, leave it at home if you know they don't like the idea of it being in their home or wear it in w/o telling them and then risk them finding out and filing a complaint against you.
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    Strange but true.

    Arkansas Code Annotated 5-73-120. Where Concealed Handguns are Prohibited

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    • At a private residence without having first advised the occupants that the license holder is carrying a concealed weapon and given the permission to carry the handgun.


    While all states have minor differences in their concealed carry law, this clause and the clause that prohibits concealed carry in churches with no exceptions is unusual if not unique.
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    Sounds like AR has some laws to get changed....
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