The anti-gun male

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    The anti-gun male

    LET'S be honest. He's scared of the thing. That's understandable--so am I. But as a girl I have the luxury of being able to admit it. I don't have to masquerade squeamishness as grand principle - in the interest of mankind, no less.

    A man does. He has to say things like "One Taniqua Hall is one too many," as a New York radio talk show host did in referring to the 9-year old New York girl who was accidentally shot last year by her 12 year old cousin playing with his uncle's gun. But the truth is he desperately needs Taniqua Hall, just like he needs as many Columbines and Santees as can be mustered, until they spell an end to the Second Amendment. And not for the benefit of the masses, but for the benefit of his self esteem.

    He often accuses men with guns of "compensating for something." The truth is quite the reverse. After all, how is he supposed to feel knowing there are men out there who aren't intimidated by the big bad inanimate villain? How is he to feel in the face of adolescent boys who have used the family gun effectively in defending the family from an armed intruder? So if he can't touch a gun, he doesn't want other men to be able to either. And to achieve his ends, he'll use the only weapon he knows how to manipulate: the law.

    Of course, sexual and psychological insecurities don't account for ALL men against guns. Certainly there must be some whose motives are pure, who perhaps do care so much as to tirelessly look for policy solutions to teenage void and aggressiveness, and to parent and teacher negligence. But for a potentially large underlying contributor, psycho-sexual inadequacy has gone unexplored and unacknowledged. It's one thing to not be comfortable with a firearm and therefore opt to not keep or bear one. But it's another to impose the same handicap onto others.

    People are suspicious of what they do not know - and not only does this man not know how to use a gun, he doesn't know the men who do, or the number of people who have successfully used one to defend themselves from injury or death. But he is better left in the dark; his life is hard enough knowing there are men out there who don't sit cross-legged. That they're able to handle a firearm instead of being handled by it would be too much to bear.

    Such a man is also best kept huddled in urban centers, where he feels safer than he might if thrown out on his own into a rural setting, in an isolated house on a quiet street where he would feel naked and helpless. Lacking the confidence that would permit him to be sequestered in sparseness, and lacking a gun, he finds comfort in the cloister of crowds.

    The very ownership of a gun for defense of home and family implies some assertiveness and a certain self reliance. But if our man kept a gun in the house, and an intruder broke in and started attacking his wife in front of him, he wouldn't be able to later say, "He had a knife--there was nothing I could do!" Passively watching in horror while already trying to make peace with the violent act, scheduling a therapy session and forgiving the perpetrator before the attack is even finished wouldn't be the option it otherwise is.

    No. Better to emasculate all men. Because let's face it: He's a lover, not a fighter. And he doesn't want to get shot in case he has an affair with your wife. Of course, it wouldn't be completely honest not to admit that owning a firearm carries with it some risk to unintended targets. That's the tradeoff with a gun: The right to defend one's life and way of life isn't without peril to oneself. And the last thing this man wants to do is risk his life - if even to save it. For he is guided by a dread fear for his life, and has more confidence in almost anyone else's ability to protect him than his own, preferring to place himself at the mercy of the villain or in the sporadically competent hands of authorities (his line of defense consisting of locks, alarm systems, reasoning with the attacker, calling the police or, should fighting back occur to him, thrashing a heavy vase).

    In short, he is a man begging for subjugation. He longs for its promise of equality in helplessness. Because only when that strange, independent alpha breed of male is helpless along with him will he feel adequate. Indeed, his freedom lies in this other man's containment.

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    Julia Gorin is a 29 year old writer, commentator and stand-up comedienne who lives with her husband and pit bull in New York City. Born in the former Soviet Union, Julia emigrated to the United States as a toddler. She grew up in Baltimore, Maryland and moved to New York ten years ago with dreams of fame, fortune and stardom. Educated at the City University of New York's Hunter College, Julia has written opinion pieces for the Washington Times, LA Times, Philadelphia Inquirer, and Christian Science Monitor. While not a dyed in the wool firearms aficionado, Julia is a firm believer in the Constitution of the United States - and that includes the Second Amendment.

    This article was reprinted from the April 2002 issue of The Jewish World Review.

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    There are basically two ways for men to be equal...Sam Colt's way, or Vladimir Lenin's way...not hard to figure out which way the men she's writing about are leaning
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    Interesting article. A different, and plausible, way of viewing the situation.

    Interesting (although not suprising) that she has written for many big newpapers, and this article was not published in them.
    eschew obfuscation

    The only thing that stops bad guys with guns is good guys with guns. SgtD

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    Good article.

    A few months ago, I wrote in my blog on the same subject, ripping apart a guy I'm acquainted with. For further entertainment (and I hope I'm not driving all over your thread, Steelhorse!), that can be accessed here.

    I consider anti-gun men as oppressive.
    "Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa

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    Nail on head. I agree with Sigmund and also consider a male-anti impotentized by hyper-cerebralism.
    Liberty, Property, or Death - Jonathan Gardner's powder horn inscription 1776

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    ("Do not give in to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it.")
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    Naaaaaahhhhh

    Quote Originally Posted by Betty
    ........and I hope I'm not driving all over your thread, Steelhorse!
    You didn't. But even if you did, keep driving over.

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    This article is a good discription of the huddled masses who are dependant on the warrior class for their existance and protection. I believe in the mirror test. Look in the mirror when you are alone. The person looking back at you is the person most responsible for your safety.

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    These kinda guys give new meaning to the term "Limp wristing your Glock". Xin Loi.

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    These are the guys, though, that if someone else is attacking their wife, they go nuts thinking that one of "us" should have helped her.... but at all other times, we are despised. You all know that sheepdogs are feared by the sheep.
    I really saw all this here in MO, since I work with a lot of people who were pro-CCW. But, when it finally got through... of maybe 40 people, there ended up me and two others who actually went and got a license and carry a gun.
    Guess what.... some of those others really don't like the thought of us having guns. Now if they have a problem, they are ultimately responsible. The pretty boys can't yell that they couldn't do anything because of a knife, etc, etc.
    Sorry, rant over. I just don't like these kind of people.

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    I will tell you all something that I never told anyone: I am very respectful of firearms. Not "scared" or "afraid" of them, just very respectful of them.

    I've seen what they can do, on bodies also, even if they were only of the animal kind (in leu of the Human Kind). I have seen firsthand what they can do to objects that simulate the mass and water content of the human body.

    I have handled all types, makes, and models of firearms. Some with multiple safeties, some with no safeties, and some with safeties that were suspent.

    Yet, even through I have a great respect for them, I am not afraid to handle them. You see, I have been taught, and actively put into action, four simple rules.

    As for "compensating" for something, I've no complaints yet so therefore, I don't feel the need to "project" onto a simple tool. Unlike some who are so afraid of a firearm that the BMW is a welcome substitute.

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    Yep agun can be a great defensive tool. Just yesterday my girlfriend came over before I got out of work. She said a guy in a truck cut her off , honked, rode her bumper then followed her to almost the house. No problem , she got out the .44 mag. from the back of her truck before she got out and headed into the house.
    gotta love a woman who is willing to take up her own defense
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    Wayne - I share your ''respect'' for firearms. Indeed, no fear or being scared, just healthy respect.

    That IMO is how it should be for all competent firarms owners who - if applying the basic safety rules, have little to worry about.
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    +1 on the respect. May we never take ALL the safety rules for granted at the same time!
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    I agree with the article also. But, and this is going to sound whiney, it can be tough culturally on these kind of issues. Men are pushed to be all "sensitive" and all that other bullcrap, yet also play the warrior when needed too. I think socially we are confused on the roles of men and women and how we relate to each other and our strengths and weaknesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelhorse
    In short, he is a man begging for subjugation.
    That is the total summation of the situation.

    Betty, you're dead on. You could also let your friend know that a Real Man is capable of defending himself and his loved ones verbally, with his hands, with arms, and most importantly, with his character. Limiting the Warrior spirit with artificial boundaries is, by definition, "inadequacy".

    Tony, I agree with you as well. I do not believe myself to be a Neanderthal, but, as I tell my wife, if you want more sensitivity than I present, you probably need to move to Greece. The Isle of Lesbos, specifically. I believe a significant number of the inhabitants have external genitalia, which may lead one to give credence to "gender neutrality". I am sufficiently secure enough in my masculinity to wear a pink shirt, on occassion, and I will fumble my way through a Starbucks order.............I prefer Folgers, though. (;
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